
Renfrew Center was the first residential eating disorder facility in the country. They have two residential locations: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania and Coconut Creek, Florida. This review page is for their Philadelphia location. Any recent reviews?? Please post them below!
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When were you there?
Early 2025
What level(s) of care did you do (e.g., inpatient, residential, PHP, IOP)?
res here + renfrew php elsewhere
If applicable: Is it wheelchair accessible?
Main building yes, pink house no
How many patients are there on average?
20-40
What genders does it treat?
Females, both trans and cisgender, and nonbinary people and trans males.
If applicable: Do they support the gender identities of transgender and nonbinary people?
Yes very LGBTQ friendly
How often do you see a medical doctor, psychiatrist, psychologist (therapist), nutritionist, nurse, etc?
Medical doctor: usually once when you’re first admitted + if needed
Psychiatrist: once a week
Psychologist: Three times a week
Dietitian: Twice a week
What sort of therapies are used (e.g., DBT, CBT, EMDR, ACT, exposure therapy, somatic experiencing, etc.)?
They use the Unified Treatment Protocol (combo of DBT CBT and ACT and other stuff) they have art therapy music therapy community groups and exposure therapy based on individual needs
Describe the average day:
4-6am vitals/weights if needed
get ready for the day
8-9am breakfast
9-10 group
10-10:30 snack
10:45-11:45 group
12-1 lunch
after meal group
1:30-2:30 group
2:45-3:15 snack (might be 3-3:30idk)
3:30-4:30
5-6 dinner
after meal group
downtime
7:30 snack
in room out by 10.
What were meals like?
you would go to your seat and the meal would be there but couldn’t eat until a staff member checked everything to make sure you had it all, then you would be given 50 minutes or so to complete. if you level up by completing, you could portion your own meal and then have it checked.
Did they supplement? How did that system work?
You’d get two ensures/bars if you did <50% and one if you did more than 50% and none if you completed.
Does it work on a level system?
yes there are five levels most people come in at three. levels 2 and 1 are if you are medically unstable or behaviorally unstable. 3 is kinda like average joe. 4 is earned by completing meals and then you are able to have caffeine and go on meal passes. level 5 you can portion everything yourself and are able to eat outside if you would like to without supervision.
What was your favorite group?
I guess art therapy
If applicable: Is the program trauma-informed?
yas, there are trauma informed groups once a week if you choose to attend them and work on it
What did people do on weekends?
There is visitation, we can watch TV, theres a talent show and you can paint your nails.
Do you get to know your weight?
Depends
What was the average length of stay?
Again, very dependent. I saw 4-12 usually.
What was the average age range?
anywhere from 14-70
How do visits/phone calls work?
Visitation is on weekends, phones are open during certain times of the day. if you need your phone to pay a bill you can ask and theyll let you for like 10-15 min lol
What is the electronics policy (e.g., cell phones, iPods, Kindles, laptops, tablets)?
Cant have ur phone, but MP3s, Kindles, things not connected to Wifi is fine.
For inpatient/residential: Are you able to go on outings/passes?
Yas, you have to be level 4 tho. Independent of staff, but planned with your dietitian and team before you go.
I found it beneficial. I know treatment is scary and the reviews can be scarier, but its all okay. No where is perfect. Meals and snacks here are quite average- teams can be hit or miss (but you can change) lodging is alright.
When were you there?
December 2022-January 2023
What level(s) of care did you do (e.g., inpatient, residential, PHP, IOP)?
residential and PHP but they also offer IOP.
If applicable: Is it wheelchair accessible?
Mostly, yes but there is one building (the Pink House) which is not
How many patients are there on average?
20-40
What genders does it treat?
Females, both trans and cisgender, and nonbinary people and trans males.
If applicable: Do they support the gender identities of transgender and nonbinary people?
Yes and we share pronouns every group
How often do you see a medical doctor, psychiatrist, psychologist (therapist), nutritionist, nurse, etc?
Medical doctor: usually once when you’re first admitted
Psychiatrist: once a week
Psychologist: Three times a week
nutritionist: Twice a week
What sort of therapies are used (e.g., DBT, CBT, EMDR, ACT, exposure therapy, somatic experiencing, etc.)?They use the Unified Treatment Protocol (combo of DBT CBT and ACT and other stuff)
Describe the average day:
What were meals like?
you would go to your seat and the meal would be there but couldn’t eat until a staff member checked everything to make sure you had it all, then you would have I believe 50 minutes or so to complete.
Did they supplement? How did that system work?
Youd get two ensures if you did <50% and one if you did more than 50% and none if you completed
Does it work on a level system?
yes there are three levels most people are at level three when you get in but levels 2 and 1 are if you are medically unstable
What was your favorite group?
art therapy
If applicable: Is the program trauma-informed?
there are trauma informed groups once a week
what did people do on weekends?
talent show and nails
Do you get to know your weight?
yes
What was the average length of stay?
about a month
What was the average age range?
anywhere from 14-70
How do visits/phone calls work?
What is the electronics policy (e.g., cell phones, iPods, Kindles, laptops, tablets)?you get your phone for an hour a day and two hours on weekends
For inpatient/residential: Are you able to go on outings/passes?
no bc of covid
Any recent reviews for Residential?
Has anyone been here recently that can post an updated review or information on the weekly schedule? Also how was the intake experience? Did you conduct it over Zoom?
Has anyone been here recently? I’m a mom so wondering if kids can visit? I don’t know that I’ll go anywhere but just curious. Trying to stay in NJ or PA
this is a brainwashing insurance scam not a treatment center they just want you to think you need the place and yaay renfrew insurance money the treatment model is so so bullshit man your treated like a toddler learning about emotions and like you’re completely unready to experience fucking normal life like you haven’t existed before. some of the ppl i met there had been there for months and were scared to leave. you don’t go to renfrew feeling that way. that’s bad. and the same ppl come back over and over like wtf. they told my parents they only discharged me sooner to “keep me engaged”. you’re all going straight to hell. except [the dietitian***] bcs she was actually so genuine and did her job right. as soon as i was discharged to their php/iop their therapist there was actually pretty understanding of how renfrew was just completely useless to me and said go be on ur way and now i’m happy and healthy on my own. but in their res it’s just forced on you and you HAVE to try to use what they teach you or at least make it look like you are for them to see you as making progress in recovery. no personalization whatsoever. [Renfrew’s founder***] must be [stupid*]. and weird. yea this anorexic women’s treatment center is run by some old guy is that not super weird why would you wanna go there lol
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Hi there, I’m a journalist looking into Renfrew Center.. I’m so sorry this happened to you. If you are open to talking with me about it, I would love to hear more about your experience there. You an email me at amy_osborne@berkeley.edu
I was at Renfrew 6/11/24-6/13. I’ve included links for a weekly schedule, meal choices (rotates every 3 weeks, and some other info. Groups are good, it’s pretty there. I’ve been here before but I guess I blocked out the most important part. Food is inedible. I was starving. My first dinner was rock hard rice and the driest toughest piece of chicken with sweet and sour sauce poured on top. I don’t know how much cooking is actually done in that kitchen. I’m not being picky, I tried to eat as I want to get better. It’s impossible. Snacks are normal packaged food so I went to snack time because I was starving. Feel free to ask any questions. Check out all the links, I couldn’t find a way to upload images to this site.
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**TW: SI**
I was a patient at the Philadelphia location and it was by far THE WORST experience ever. I had a substance abuse problem and an eating disorder. Whilst I was inpatient I overdosed and the so called “Professionals” sent me to the ER to get my stomach pumped with charcoal. The charcoal was all over my face and body and when I got back to the centre the staff refused to let me clean myself and gave me 10 minutes to pack my bags and leave. When a person overdoses its a cry for help but I got no help and the employees not only have no idea how to treat mental illness but they have absolutely NO CLUE HOW TO TREAT PEOPLE. That place is an absolute joke
Wow..this is very concerning. I have been recommended to go there (res) and I don’t think I will honestly. Not only can I be treated at a lower level of care but also it sounds like a place that would not be great for autistic people like me who might have different needs than the average patient. These kind of inhumane type ways of treating people don’t work well for me. I’m so sorry that you went through that.
Updated review please for Philadelphia?
Does Renfrew (Spring Lane) still offer multi family groups on the weekend that are open to alumni dropping in? I’m having a hard time, and groups have been a motivation boost for me in the past.
The website seemed to indicate MFG is now for family/friends of current patients only, but I couldn’t find a clear answer. Thanks!
any more recent reviews?
I was a patient in the Philadelphia location approximately 15+ years ago and I was beyond disappointed and disgusted with the so-called “care” I received. (*TW*) I managed to overdose on some prescription meds I had managed to get in (*END TW*) and their response was to send me to get charcoal down my neck at some nearby hospital and once I returned to Renfrew they refused to allow me to wash my face (it was black from the charcoal and vomit) and then they gave me less than 10 minutes to pack and leave. I have spoken to many people in the legal and medical profession and they all have said that this was completely unacceptable and a lot more things that I don’t feel like sharing here.
I wouldn’t go there if it was the last place on earth.
not to be a jerk- but residential is not inpatient. If you are overdosing, then you need a hospital and a higher level of care, which probably means you were asked to leave because they can’t acomodate your needs there
With all due respect- Perhaps you should have a look at the Renfrew website and see what services they supposedly offer.
To clear this lil squabble up: Renfrew’s website is somewhat deceiving. They list their residential under the heading “inpatient services”.
But this is an inaccurate description. Renfrew’s highest level of care is residential, which is one step down from true inpatient. The difference between the two is level of medical & nursing care. For example, to bill insurance for inpatient a provider/doctor must see a patient daily.
Hi there, I’m a journalist looking into Renfrew Center.. I’m so sorry this happened to you. If you are open to talking with me about it, I would love to hear more about your experience there. You an email me at amy_osborne@berkeley.edu
Does anyone know if they still do scholarships?
IDK about directly but they and Alsana are listed on Project Heal’s site. From what I understand it’s kind of hard to be approved for a higher level of care through Project Heal and the waiting list can be long, but I do know of someone who was approved to go to Res through them and is on the waiting list so it is theoretically possible. If no one else has more info would probably contact the centers directly and ask? I applied for Project Heal in 2020 and the application form was LONG. I didn’t complete the process because insurance wound up coming through for me so I can’t speak to that. I directly contacted the place I wanted to go that also participates in Project Heal and was able to be approved for a scholarship with a one page form just asking how much I make. That was just for group therapy though.
I thought project heal would cover any ED treatment center as long as you meet their income requirements? Is that not true? Do they only cover specific treatment centers? I tried to apply for financial assistance for inpatient through project heal a while ago, but the application was sooo long and confusing, and it was very unclear to me how to apply properly. Lots of the application and form confused me. And for the life of me I could not find a phone number or email address or any contact info for Project heal to call and ask questions about how to apply for financial assistance for inpatient or res. Do you know if they have a number or email or any way I can contact them? Thanks!
IDK but I’m medicare and was just recommended to go there res (I don’t think they take medicare so I’m not sure how that works) apparently there’s a caseworker with NY state that does somehow get the medicare and medicaid folks in…at least that seems to be what I’ve been told so far. I honestly doubt they will take me and don’t think it will work out anyway but at least I was told it would be covered….
Therapist was borderline abusive to both me and my family. Leadership and staffing was ran horribly, I was told I was in the wrong to go to a therapist when there was no to little counselors available. People had very little experience.
Hi there, I’m a journalist looking into Renfrew Center.. If you are open to talking with me about it, I would love to hear more about your experience there. You an email me at amy_osborne@berkeley.edu
I was an inpatient at Renfrew spring Lane and I have nothing good to say. I was there in 2009 and I managed to overdose while there and the staff were beyond ignorant and rude. An absolute disgrace.
Hi there, I’m a journalist looking into Renfrew Center.. If you are open to talking with me about it, I would love to hear more about your experience there. You an email me at amy_osborne@berkeley.edu
Anyone have any recent reviews, it’s one of the places I’m considering and would love a review if possible!
Looking for recent reviews of the program
I was at Renfrew Philly (residential) roughly 10 years ago. Does anyone know if things have changed at all over the years (2012ish-to now)? This might be a long shot, but maybe someone else was at the residential site more than once, within that timeframe.
This might be one of my limited options due to insurance issues.
Would anyone recommend it? or should I look elsewhere?
Would also love a recent review of the residential! Also, does anyone know if they generally take lower BMIs or not so much? Was recently denied Monte Nido NY residential because of this so looking for other options in the general area.
Okay, this review might be a little long, but I felt like writing a truthful review of what I experienced at The Renfrew Center for Eating Disorders. It’s been about six years since I’ve been in Renfrew’s Inpatient and Day programs, (I was eighteen at the time, now I’m twenty-four) and to this very day, I still harbor a lot of PTSD due to my overall experience at Renfrew Inpatient/Day Program. I actually decided not to participate in therapy for five years because I didn’t trust anyone- therapists or even family. I still suffered from anorexia-it was controlling my life, I became more distant, and I shut down emotionally, keeping all my feelings to myself. Just this year (2022) ***, I’ve finally decided to try and help myself again, because some part of me still has hope.
Now, it’s time for me to review this godforsaken place. As I have already mentioned, I have anorexia, and have been suffering from it for a couple of years now. In 2016, I had hit rock bottom. *** I had to stay in the hospital ***. From there, I was transported straight to the Renfrew Center for Eating Disorders’ Inpatient Program, and then, after four months of inpatient treatment, I did about two months of outpatient treatment at Radnor, PA. These were the two biggest mistakes I had made in my life, and I’m not lying. I know that some people talk up Renfrew like it’s a godsend or something, and I know they do actually help people, and that there are recovery success stories, but sadly, this was not the case for me. I REALLY wanted this to work out for me, but it just didn’t, and I’m surprised that I stayed there as long as I did without becoming clinically insane. For one thing, I don’t know what they were trying to accomplish by [how much they were] feeding people. They do not consider individual metabolisms at all, and they over supplement like crazy, which can easily make Refeeding Syndrome worse. I actually ended up having Refeeding Syndrome from all the [food]. I recall countless times feeling so sick and so nauseous that I was not able to walk, for them to just say “deal with it,” which seems to be their motto. They need to update their dietary guidelines to fit more with the USDA’s diet plans, as I feel that their nutritional planning is severely outdated. Also, beware, if you have Hypothyroidism, like me, and take medicine for it, you will have to literally pull hair and teeth in order for them to let you take it, as they consider it a “diet aid,” which is absolutely ridiculous! The therapists and psychiatrists do not even listen, and they only seem to be concerned out two things: your weight, and your [food] intake, not a patient’s mental status (mine was severely neglected whilst at Renfrew Inpatient and Day Program). They absolutely love meal plan increases, regardless of whether you have reached a suitable body weight or not. They made me get XX pounds over my ideal body weight goal, which, as a result, caused me to severely relapse as soon as I got released from Radnor’s Day Program, and now I’m back to square one again with my anorexia. One more thing I have to mention; even though some patient-to-patient relationships at Renfrew were really rewarding, some were equally just as toxic as well. I was actually starting to get bullied because I had gained some weight, which is atrocious, disgraceful, and should never be allowed, especially in an eating disorder setting where people are extremely self-conscious about their bodies. But, the counselors just stood there and did nothing about it. The staff there, especially the nurses have to be some of the most vile, arrogant, and ignorant people that I have met in my entire existence. Multiple Family Group meetings on the weekends are boring and extremely awkward, as the whole room usually idly sits around for about twenty minutes, twiddling their thumbs before anyone says anything, not to mention the deafening silence is very uncomfortable. Lastly, the structure was significantly worse in Day Program than in Inpatient. They do not even offer [a variety of] food options, instead they get everything catered, and ordered from places like McDonalds or Panera. I would not recommend going to either Renfrew Inpatient or Day Program in PA.
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I’m so sorry for your trauma! I was really impressed with their new podcast and the story of how renfrew started. It’s so disappointing that it isn’t better care like they talked about. Hope your doing ok now or found better help.
I’m so sorry, that sounds like hell. It never ceases to amaze me the damage some of these so called ‘treatment programs’ do. Apparently Renfrew has been a nightmare for years. It’s so sad, I was an inpatient there in 1987 and it was an extremely compassionate and client centered environment at the time. I think the combination of managed care and treatment centers expanding to multiple locations, has really hampered the quality of treatment available today. It makes me angry that people have to fight so hard to get into IP or res, and then treatment does more harm. Its not right.
I’m inclined to agree this managed care insurance stuff has just led to significant decline with a lot of centers. I am recommended to go there but I’m Deaf use ASL and I can’t see them having an interpreter for me. Not to mention that if I don’t have access to my phone or video phone then I don’t have access to communication at all….I’m not sure how that is going to work. I can’t use voice phone on a wall. How will I get my human rights while I’m there? I doubt they have thought about that.
I’m so sorry this happened to you. I’m a journalist looking into Renfrew Center and if you are open to talking with me about it, I would love to hear more about your experience there. You an email me at amy_osborne@berkeley.edu
Hi can someone please please tell me about the los Angeles location? Im searching for a place to go and this is the closest place to me.
How are the groups?
Have you faced any discrimination for your size or ethnic background?
What modalities do they use?
How do they treat clients?
Are the staff experienced and knowledgeable?
I have a few questions.
I have an admit phone call Monday, so I am sure that I can get a lot of these questions answered then, but it could be very helpful to receive some feedback from actual patients as I know you all will be fully honest and upfront, rather than not giving the full truth you know.
Can answer some of your questions, but not all as I have not been a patient at Renfrew in a few years.
Can someone tell me their daily schedule in the program as of 2022? Is there cell usage allowed and visitors? Are we allowed in our rooms during the day? How many roommates? What is the bathroom like, communal, semi private etc? So many questions haha. Would be great to know!
Does anyone know if they allow visitors for patients now?
Renfrew is a horrible place. First of all, don’t go there is you’re 30 plus. They’ll tell you patients are any age and there are groups for that age group. There is one group and you’ll be in other groups with teenagers and preteens. The patients are very sweet but I felt like their mom. I was giving them better therapy than their own therapists. Renfrew should pay me!
i was 45 going in for a sugar addiction. I told them multiple times to not give me refined sugar in my meals and they refused, even though I told them that’s what I needed before I went.
The groups are ridiculous. I went to like 10 that were meditation, 10 for journaling, and they have their own program for EDs which is repetitive and sophomoric. We even had groups to merely listen to music and paint your nails. Renfrew tried to respond to me telling me that was art therapy, which is about the dumbest thing I’ve been told by a medical facility. We couldn’t go outside in the winter. They blamed COVID but NEWS FLASH. It’s very easy to stand 6 feet apart from each other outside, not to mention you have to wear a mask ALL the time even though you get COVID tested twice.
It was seriously like being in a prison. The therapists are mostly very young and you can tell they’re following a script. They’re nice, but inexperienced and aren’t helpful at all. The main nurse practitioner has the IQ of an ice cube and the nurses follow what she says, A few of the nurses I met were lovely but they love to gossip about patients and some are incompetent.
Since I’ve left I’ve read complaints that are actually illegal on Renfrew’s part. One was that an employee watched a patient insert a tampon and this employee is still working there. I’ve read at least 2 complaints that were a HIPAA breach, and a complaint where a patient was refused her usual psychiatric medication since it can suppress appetite, which put her into withdrawal.
This is what I suggest:
PLEASE when an outpatient therapist suggests Renfrew say NO. Most of their business comes from referrals.
File a complaint with the Better Business Bureau.
If laws are broken, contact an attorney or even a paralegal.
Honestly, this place needs to be shut down,
I’m so sorry you had to go through this, thank you so much for sharing this review.
While there aren’t many eating disorder treatment centers that won’t put refined sugar in your foods, you might check out SunCloud in Chicago. They are a new residential eating disorder and dual-diagnosis program that prescribes patients who they diagnose with food addiction what they call a “low-exposure” meal plan, where you don’t have refined sugar or flour. It’s a controversial treatment approach, since most centers work on helping patients learn to eat their trigger foods in moderation. However it might be what you are looking for! Their director answered some questions about their sugar-restriction approach to food addiction on their review page here:
https://edtreatmentreview.com/suncloud-health/
I’ve made a temporary exception to our rule of not letting treatment centers post on this site for them to be able to
answer questions about their food addiction program, so you are welcome to engage them with questions there (you can remain anonymous too). I will let her know she can come and respond! Whatever your next steps are, my wish for you is that you don’t give up on your recovery, because it is real and you deserve to recover!
I wish I had seen this. My s/o is struggling with an ED and her therapist told her how great Renfrew was and recommended it highly. 4 weeks later, she’s way worse than she was before :(. Trying to figure a way out of this situation…
I’m so sorry this happened to you. I’m a journalist looking into Renfrew Center and if you are open to talking with me about it, I would love to hear more about your experience there. You an email me at amy_osborne@berkeley.edu
Where can I see these complaints? Thank you!
Has anyone with a chronic or SEED (severe and enduring eating disorder) had success or a positive experience at renfrew?
I have a few questions actually. Are you allowed to smoke if you are unable to finish your meal? How many meals do you need to complete in order to be able to have a hot beverage? Do you still get to pick your meals while on the “support” level? Do you have access to your rooms during the day? How often is art therapy, and what types of things do you do? During free time are you allowed outside ever?
I appreciate any answers!
So I was at Renfrew a year ago, but based on that, I can answer some of your questions.
1. I don’t know what the rules were regarding smoking.
2. You can have a hot beverage immediately after completing one meal.
3. When you first come in, they pick your meals for you until you can meet with a dietician. The thing with picking meals at Renfrew was that the options were severely limited until you got onto the FO (fix-own) level in the dining room. There are essentially two options for each “exchange” on every menu. You pick whether you get the vegetarian or non-vegetarian entree, then it’s just pretty much picking whether you want a banana or apple juice for your fruit. Whether you choose your items or not, the meal will essentially be the same.
4. You can go to your room pretty much whenever you want IF you’re in the main house. If you start skipping groups, they will most likely talk to you about non-compliance, but no one’s stopping you from going into your room. Your bathroom will also be unlocked unless you get put on a locked bathroom restriction. If you’re in the pink house, you only get to go there at night.
5. I think art therapy was 1-2 times a week (I can’t remember for sure). Sometimes you get to pick between groups, so it might be able to be more or less. Art therapy would usually have a theme of some sort where they would say that you would be making art related to body image, etc. They would also sometimes decide a medium that you would be using. They used watercolor, collage, etc. I remember once that we made something to put in a vase to represent things motivating us (despite the fact that we weren’t allowed to bring it back to our room. Sometimes we would get open studio for art therapy (though it was usually rare).
6. You could usually sit on the benches outside the front of the building and smoke breaks were, obviously, outside. I also went outside with my mom when she visited because she brought my dog and dogs weren’t allowed in the building.
I hope this was able to help you a little bit!
Any recent adult reviews ?
I was discharged from Renfrew’s residential facility in Philadelphia after 4 weeks. I would not recommend it.
The therapists are generally good (mine was nice but very young and inexperienced, I heard mixed reviews from others), the nursing staff are mixed, and the counselors are mostly bad (with a few exceptions). The weekend staff are almost all horrible. The counselors were really poorly trained and a lot of them were bullies. They were mostly incompetent and some just enjoyed playing power games with residents. My psychiatrist was nice but I only saw her a couple times and my impression was that she had a standard set of “go-to” meds that she prescribed, because a lot of patients were being prescribed the same meds, even people who had been on different meds before they came to Renfrew.
I found the groups very repetitive and boring, and overall not very helpful. It’s just watered-down CBT and DBT but they try to dress it up as some kind of specialist ED therapy. It’s really not. They had almost nothing on body image which is really bad for an ED facility. And their “specialty” tracks for trauma and substance abuse are really bad.
The meals were huge – not surprising. What was surprising was the poor quality of the food – lots of sugary snacks, flavored milk, white bread, white pasta, cheese, highly-processed foods, juice, desserts, sweetened cereals, tater tots, etc. Hot food was often lukewarm or cold. Not much fruit or vegetables. The exchange system they used for meal plans didn’t make much sense. They talked a lot about mindful eating but most of the time you had to eat like a robot in order to finish the meals because they were so big and everyone felt sick and disgusting.
The treatment model is not tailored at all, so the nutritionists arrive at work on Monday mornings and increase almost everybody’s meal plans based on Monday morning weights (which, by the way, are taken at 4am). Then they do the same on Wednesday mornings, and again on Friday mornings, even though you are still adjusting to a meal plan increase from 2 days earlier. People with obesity-related disorders receive the same supplements as a people with anorexia. The lack of any logic caused me to lose trust in their “treatment” methods.
The atmosphere was very negative especially in the trays dining room and after meals. Some residents were really motivated in their recovery which was great but overall the lack of respect from staff and the fact that so many people were struggling made it very difficult for residents to maintain motivation towards recovery. There was a lot of talk about recovery – people said the right things – but very few people actually followed through. I saw residents exercising in the stairwell, and I heard people who were meant to be on locked bathrooms talk about how they got around those restrictions.
Renfrew was cynical in pretending to care about residents by holding community meetings to get feedback from residents, but then they would just ignore everything that we said. They aren’t equipped to manage the more complex patients who come through their doors, especially people who are not medically able to participate in groups. Instead they just take their money and confine these people to a day-room. It’s cruel and it’s demoralizing for everyone.
I was also concerned for the teenagers at Renfrew because they were exposed to a lot of inappropriate behavior. For parents who are considering different treatment facilities for their daughters, I would seriously recommend a place that caters solely for adolescents. The teenagers at Renfrew weren’t even allowed to go back to their building until after 9.15pm each day because there weren’t enough staff to supervise them, so these poor kids had to sleep on the couches in the main building every evening. And they were only ever allowed offsite with their parents, so if their families weren’t in the area, they couldn’t leave, which was really tough on them. It was not a good environment for them to be in.
My discharge was also badly managed. Granted my insurance company didn’t give Renfrew much notice but I would expect they would be used to that happening and have some basic arrangements in place, but they had nothing, so I had 12 hours to get out and make my own plans. They wanted me to go to their day program but I’m still reeling from the whole experience. Overall Renfrew did me more harm than good, so I’m planning to go back to a private therapist and make other arrangements.
Hi, I was at the Philly residential facility very recently (fall 2023) and for anyone looking for more recent feedback, this review is pretty consistent with my experiences as well. I would not recommend it, for the same reasons. All that said, based on my research at least, there are not a ton of better options, sadly.
I was at Renfrew April 2007-June 2007 so my review isn’t current. But I have been to a variety of centers since and I can say Renfrew was one of the worst. I remember needing to wear a nametag around my neck for staff to know my name because their patient population was so large (50 women at a time). To get my medications I would have to go to the nurse’s window and present my nametag because the nurses didn’t know our names. Super impersonal. I was told when I admitted to Renfrew I would get 42 days to get better. Even before they knew me or how I would respond to the treatment they chose my discharge date. I remember feeling very rushed through the program because I only had 42 days to get better and I had been struggling with this illness for many years. It felt kind of like a big sorority party and not like a treatment center. I relapsed the moment I walked out of the door of Renfrew and a few months later I ended up at Rogers which was a much better program. It’s easy to get lost in the crowd in a big program like Renfrew and that’s exactly what happened. Even over 10 years later I wouldn’t recommend them for someone who is chronic. Renfrew can treat a very basic eating disorder with their cookie cutter factory like program and that’s it.
When were you there:
November 2016 – February 2017
How many patients on average?
Around 50. On average about 2-5 discharged each week but new admits always came that day or the day after.
Does it treat both males and females?
Only females
How often do you see a medical doctor, psychiatrist, psychologist (therapist), nutritionist, etc?
Therapist two-three times a week (you can do a check-in if needed), medical doctor you will see most likely when you first arrive, if you need a doctor after that they will most likely send you to the hospital; they have a head nurse and other nurses; psychiatrist once a week; nutritionist once a week (you can do a check-in if needed). *the overnight nurses are awesome!
What is the staff ratio to patients?
There are probably 5-7 general staff ladies walking around trying to maintain a house of 50+ females…there were never enough staff around
What sort of therapies are used? (DBT, CBT, EMDR) etc?
CBT, DBT, art therapy
All therapy outside of your own sessions are done in larger groups called “stages.” T-stage is the highest stage which people sometimes will reach as they get to the end of their stay. I found it to be the most helpful. We went to Target with a small group and an occupational therapist. This helped prepare me for trying on clothes when I arrived back home.
Describe the average day:
4-6am – Wake up for weights and vitals (some people are on daily weights; some people aren’t..)
After you sit in the lobby forever and ever waiting to get weighed and vitalized…you can go back up to your room and fall back asleep (if you can) otherwise you can take a shower, read a book in one of the living rooms, or just lay in bed..etc.
8:15am – Breakfast
After BF – Groups
Med window
Group
Group
12 – Lunch
Wrap Group
Group
Snack – everyone is welcome; some people are mandatory snack; some people come to support their friend and eat a snack together
Group
6 – Dinner (always late!) They only give you a set amount of time to eat so when the doors open late then you have less time to eat.
Meal Support Therapy
Free time/med window open
9 – I think the Pink House girls leave for their building at 9 (girls usually under 18)
What were meals like?
“Support” – small room, two tables, meal already plated, less than 10 girls, one staff, complete 3 meals in a row and you move up to trays, staff sign off that you finished your meal
“Trays” – medium room, three tables, 15-20 girls, 2-3 staff, food is plated but you chose what is was ahead of time, focus was on reducing food rituals and completing meals without supplementing, staff sign off that you finished your meal
Interdependent eating – “IE” – large room, more than five tables, one to three staff, food journals, you are able to choose from two options out of the “buffet line,” it is intimidating for about a day and then you start feeling confident, staff sign off that you finished your meal
Fix own – “FO” – you are able to sit in a more secluded room or in the “IE” dining room, or the porch; no staff need to check or sign you off, you choose what you want to eat as long as it meets your meal plan
What sorts of food were available or served?
Fish, chicken, tofu, pizza
almonds, peanut butter, soy yogurt, almond milk
rice, a lot of PITA! Raisin Bran, bran flakes
bananas, apples, toast!, chicken sandwich, hummus platter 🙁
cookies, brownies, breakfast egg sandwich, French toast
cheez-its, pretzels, ice cream
they had some gluten-free options but not too many
Did they supplement? How did that system work?
Yes. If you don’t finish your meal they will give you one or two ensure+ depending on how much you ate. Also, they will add ensures to your meal plan if you are not making weights.
Are you able to be a vegetarian?
Yes
What privelages are allowed?
They allow passes if you get to certain levels. They don’t have an exercise program. People are allowed to go on walks daily but it is very short distance.
What did you like the most?
-the atmosphere with the girls is amazing..you are literally NEVER alone!
-They don’t sugarcoat anything at Renfrew! (sorry for the food pun) “NO ONE can MAKE YOU recover.”.my therapist and dietitian always said this to me. This is how Renfrew operates. They give you the tools and you need to figure it out. They are tough but they do care. They have had A LOT of success.
-You can feel the progress you are making. The level system was like a challenge for me. A challenge of me against my eating disorder. When I got to the next “stage” or when I moved up in the dining hall, I knew I was making progress in beating my eating disorder. It felt awesome to see and feel my progress.
-They let you do room changes if it is necessary…on the downside, they will do a room change on you and you’ll get a notice in your mailbox saying that you have to move and you can’t do anything about it.
-You can’t knit or color or whatever the heck else people do. I was SO HAPPY about this! Everyone is kind of forced to pay attention so yes, people actually participate!
-ART THERAPY!!
What did you like the least?
-They really need a better way of dealing with the phones. I was from out of state and they don’t allow cell phones which is fine however they also don’t let you use their landline for more than 15 minutes at a time. This was very hard for me when I wanted to call home and had to use the first 5 minutes of my phone time just trying to get my calling card to go through!
-Teenagers and adults in the same groups! I don’t even want to start explaining why this shouldn’t be a thing..
-Not enough staff; girls rely on each other which can be really helpful but sometimes you need a professional
-Dysfunctional staff! Holy cow I can’t explain how many times they didn’t know what was going on and they even have walkie talkies.
-Large groups and sometimes the room was so packed that people were usually sitting on the stairs and the floor
Would you recommend this program?
ABSOLUTELY! I traveled very far to go to Renfrew with no hope for my life whatsoever. I called my family, crying and scared and alone multiple times throughout the beginning of my stay. I realized however that once I started letting the program takeover, my true self started to come out. My therapist actually retired halfway through my stay and I had to transfer to a new one. They were both great though! I seriously learned so much from the staff here. No program is perfect and not one program works for everyone. Once you start to work with the program and not against it, you will feel a difference. I would recommend Renfrew to anyone struggling. This place saved my life.
Do you get to know your weight?
Yes
How fast is the weight gain process?
1-4lbs per week but it is very individualized
What was the average length of stay?
A lot of people stayed for about 4-6 weeks I would say
What was the average age range?
15-55
When were you there:
november-january 2016-17
How many patients on average?
it really depends on if it’s “prime time” for treatment or not. when i got there, the pink house was in use, but by the time i left, it wasn’t. i’d say around 30-40.
Does it treat both males and females?
only females
How often do you see a medical doctor, psychiatrist, psychologist (therapist), nutritionist, etc?
you see a therapist twice a week for therapy and once a week for family therapy (i didn’t participate in family therapy so i had three individual sessions a week)
you see your nutritionist once a week and your psychiatrist once a week too. however, since you live in the same building as they work, you can easily catch them at other times through notes or just knocking on their door. you see a nurse practitioner only when you come on your first day and as needed. however, the nursing staff is almost always available and if you asked to see a nurse, you’d usually see one immediately.
What is the staff ratio to patients?
not enough staff, i’d say, especially in the evenings. there were longer waits for nurses and counselors then. during the day it was a little better, but not by much.
What sort of therapies are used? (DBT, CBT, EMDR) etc?
renfrew has its own UT (unified treatment) in all of their locations. it’s supposedly a blend of DBT, CBT, and ACT. however, unless you force yourself to engage with the packets, you won’t get anything out of it.
e stage – the introductory stage.
e* stage – a little bit more engaging. everyone had to go to e or e* daily because it’s right after breakfast.
to get to a stage and t stage, you had to fill out a packet and it had to be “approved” by the team. that team is the clinical team at-large, not just your individual team. a stage is two weeks, t stage is one. i was never deemed “emotionally mature” enough for t stage so i never filled out a packet for it and was on a stage for three weeks. t stage has a lot of exposures and outings. the central force of the UT model is the ARC, which is like a behavior chain on steroids, but very helpful if you do it properly
they also use art therapy and psychodrama. nutrition groups.
multi family group was “mandatory” twice a week but i never went and never got in trouble
Describe the average day:
vitals and weights from 4-6 AM every morning (jn the residence building). a lot of girls would go early, like 3:30, at the MAs liked that. vitals were every day until you were on routine (MWF). you could be routine for weights but not for vitals, and vice versa.
8-9 breakfast
730 smoke break
9-950 e or e* groups
10 to whenever you get done at the med window. med lines were long. i only had meds in the evenings so i’d skip the med line in the AM even though they make you take vitamins.
1030 a or t groups. if you weren’t on those levels there were several others to choose from. also, your therapist would generally schedule you during this time if you weren’t on a/t. there was also supplement group and morning snacks but often those were just eaten in the med line
1150 smoke break
12-1250 lunch
1-130 MST, unless you were on FO. then you could either go to MST or just sit in the ULR.
130 afternoon groups/med window opened
315 snack. if they said you were orthostatic during vitals, you’d have to drink gatorade at the afternoon snack.
330 and onwards free time. there were walks you could go on, sometimes groups, sometimes you’d have appointments. the computer lab would also open up at 4. most people just slept or watched tv or did various other crafty things. phones also came out at this time. smoke break before dinner
555 dinner, but it never, ever started on time
645-745 RAP group, “review and process” review the day and go over UT related things. lots of ARCing.
free time after that. sometimes there would be groups where you could paint your nails or craft, sometimes we’d have talent shows, sometimes watching a movie or tv. visiting hours.
750 smoke break
9 night snack
9-whenever, med window. another smoke break
11 lights out
What were meals like?
renfrew works with the exchange system. there are three basic meal plans, A, B, C. most people are put on B. then they would add snacks and supplements, making it B+1 (meal plan b plus a snack) and so on.
there were levels to meals. you got to pick all of your meals.
support: sat in a small, secluded room. all food laid out for you, you just took off a the plastic wrap. very quiet. very uncomfortable. a staff member was there but wouldn’t always eat at the table with you, which i found awkward. many girls stay in support for a long time since you have to complete three meals in a row to move up. supplements count for completion i believe.
trays: the same set up as support (there’s actually just a barrier between the two rooms that’s removable) but much larger. they played music often. girls are less likely to struggle here, but supplementing is still rampant and you’re supposed to work on stopping food rituals. barriers to moving up to the next level include food rituals, not meeting weight goals, not completing. there was some “amount” of meals you had to finish (14?) to move up, but i don’t think that was accurate and it was more individualized
IE (interdependent eating): you go through the line and pick what you want based on what your menu had on it that day. basically, you choose your sides and which entree you want. a staff member checks you off. you have to fill out food journals. you choose where you sit and it’s a big, open dining room. it’s usually pretty relaxed but there was always drama going on about people using food rituals in IE when i was there
FO (fix own): the final level. in FO you can pick whatever you want as long as the kitchen has it and it follows your meal plan. there were some guidelines (hot breakfast required, must choose one entree a day). you could sit in the private dining room if you wanted, but i usually just say in the IE room. the downfall to FO is you’re the last to go through the line and sometimes were rushed to eat. still have to fill out food journals but you didn’t need to be checked off. a lot of girls would abuse their FO privileges and get peanut butter sandwiches all the time, i’m not sure how long it took for them to get caught
meals were generally one vegetarian option and one meat option. think wraps, salads, and LOTS OF RICE at dinnertime. there is also the infamous “cheesy hump day” where everything involves cheese. breakfast is cereal, bagels, scones, muffins, etc. basic stuff. oatmeal was allowed on FO.
it’s a three-week rotation, and often people will celebrate their “mealaversary” (the meal they came in on)
snacks are also on a three-week rotation. snacks are 3-4 exchanges and included things like cereal/yogurt, pretzels/ice cream, and other things. FO could choose any combination of snacks they wanted and didn’t have to follow the snack list
coffee and tea are served 3x a day. you had to finish your meals to get hot beverages, and they’re only caffeinated in the morning
Did they supplement? How did that system work?
they supplemented in addition to your meal plan with ensure if you needed it. there were other substitutes for ensure if you couldnt have that
if you finished >50% of the meal, you got one ensure+. less than 50%, two ensure+.
Are you able to be a vegetarian?
yes, but be prepared for lots of cheese and TVP
What privileges are allowed?
phone access every day, but you had to have a phone card usually
computer access
you got your own bathroom in a suite-style room. i found this absurd. you can use the bathroom whenever you’d like, shower whenever you’d like, etc. it was easy for people to self-harm and purge but if you did those things you typically got put on locked bathrooms (which sucked for your suitemates).
passes, once you got to level 4
walking the labyrinth, being outside
What did you like the most?
my therapist. she was incredible, was always there, and really listened
many of the girls were great
being on level 5/FO. i had been to renfrew before and never made it, and those levels are really a privilege.
i wasn’t forced on any medication, it was a relief
they gave me a daytime pass on christmas day so my mom could come (passes are usually later in the evening). i thought this was the nicest thing and let me enjoy my holiday, since my mom didn’t want to drive at night
good discussion in groups, sometimes. for some of my time there, the girls i was with were really great
the chestnut hill neighborhood where many people go on passes was really really nice, especially around christmas
i felt like i really got something out of renfrew.
the MAs and the food service staff. they brightened my days and knew my name. it was incredible.
What did you like the least?
this was not my first time there. my prior experience was TERRIBLE but i won’t discuss it here
the facility. it’s old and dated, and only half or so of the rooms in the residence building have been updated, so you may get a room with a wonky shower while your friend has a pristine bathroom, like i did
the pass situation. you can’t have your phone at renfrew and you typically can’t have it for passes, either. you have to rely on a cab company that is ALWAYS late. it’s also hard if you want directions somewhere or want to know what it open. it gets you really stuck when you’re outside of renfrew but have nothing but a flip-phone they give one member of your group. you also can only have a car if you’re on level 5
the way they dealt with self-harm and the use of safety contracts and/or safety checks. everyone knew about safety contracts because everyone saw people getting pulled to sign one, and 90% of the time that’s all it was-“sign this paper.” they didn’t stop me from self-harming, and when you did self-harm they asked you to cover up any bandages they put on you, and most people didn’t follow that rule, which was frustrating
the lack of access to computers/outside world. it made coming home hard, and i was glad i was able to go on so many passes
yoga wasnt taught with a real instructor and there were no other exercise groups
the repetition in the packets
Would you recommend this program?
if you are local and have local friends, it’s great, because they can come see you and support you and you don’t have to pay for a cab
if you step down to other renfrew programs, its nice to have the same MPs and treatment modalities
if youre ready to recover and overlook the many negative things about renfrew
What level of activity or exercise was allowed?
yoga if you were cleared, walks a few times a week. the most activity i got was walking around on my passes
Do you get to know your weight?
yes, they encouraged it. my day treatment program (also renfrew) refused blind weights, you could just close your eyes but had to go on forwards
How fast is the weight gain process?
2-5 lbs a week
What was the average length of stay?
the program itself should take about 5-8 weeks, but people were there longer or shorter depending on insurance and other situations
What was the average age range?
depends. it was SO WIDE when i was there, many adolescents, 14-17. a big group of girls my age between 19-28. older women in their late 40s and early 50s. honestly most people hung out with people in their age groups, but everyone knew each other
My adult daughter was admitted to Renfrew in Phila last August, completed their five week residential program & was discharged to their Day Program. I just want to voice here that they have ZERO aftercare or follow up with their patients or their families 🙁 My daughter has now (six months later) relapsed & my heart is broken again. Their program may be fine, (I have nothing to compare it to), but like I said there is no *aftercare*, whIch imho is CRITICAL. For this reason alone, I would NOT recommend them.
I would definitely think twice before sending your daughter to Renfrew in PA or Renfrew in general. Their primary intention is to retain them as long as possible for financial gain. If you do go or send your loved one please make sure to ask plenty of questions. You will find plenty of resistance from the staff and therapists the more you ask or question their practices. Our daughter even signed forms allowing us to have full release of all information regarding her treatment status. However, it was like pulling teeth getting any information and they would continuously bring out HIPPA laws. They would even mention it while our daughter was present and we were asking questions. Our daughter actually passed out one day and we were not notified at all until our daughter gave us a call. However, you will find that they will have no problems contacting you or even divulging medical information when it deals with financial concerns or getting the insurance to pay.
You will find that they pretty much brainwash the girls in believing that they have to be there and stay as long as possible. Many of the girls there are repeat patience and relapse is very high which is what Renfrew is there to prevent. It becomes almost a social club for the girls and they encourage it deepening the reliance on Renfrew. Even after you leave they encourage and really coerce the girls to keep going to their local Renfrew to continue treatment and make them feel if they don’t it won’t end well. Luckily our daughter was an adult and was able to leave on her own but I would be so horrified to leave my underage child in their care.
The staff by the most part is unprofessional and really not there for girls. Please review sites like Glassdoor.com and Indeed.com so you can view former employee accounts of this place.
After my daughter left Renfrew in PA she wanted to keep going back, we almost had to deprogram her until she finally realized what was going on. They actually take advantage of a real mental health problem and all for money or to use them as Guinea pigs.
If you do send you loved one please stay very involved, they don’t like that but you have to. Call and keep finding out what the status and conditions are. They want to keep you at a distance from your loved one and Renfrew. They only want you to ask questions or address them on their terms.
Find an independent therapist that can help your daughter or loved one or someone that you know is really going to try to help. Remember that if all or even most of the girls in Renfrew in PA or your local Renfrew really took control of their disorder or even beat it Renfrew would go out of business. It is not in their best interest for them not to be dependent or Renfrew.
I’m now in the position you were in. My 23 year old is considering going to phila Renfrew. It was recommended by her therapist. I’m really struggling with handing her over to them. After reading their packeti, are they able to leave at any time if dissatisfied with program? It does not address that. Of course on paper it sounds perfect. But nothing ever is. Your review is helpful, and 2 years later, do you have additional thoughts? I hope your daughter is now recovered, or at least in a program that is working for her. Any information would be very appreciated.
I’m so sorry this happened to you and your daughter. I’m a journalist looking into Renfrew Center and if you are open to talking with me about it, I would love to hear more about your experience there. You an email me at amy_osborne@berkeley.edu
Does anyone know if they have a weight requirement for admission to Renfrew’s IOP programs? I just discharged from another Res/PHP program, but am not yet weight restored, so I was just wondering about Renfrew’s policies. Thanks!
When were you there?
March – May 2015
How many patients on average?
It really varies, at times there were about 35, but at one point all the beds were filled so I would say about 50
Patients live in the residence building. This is mainly for adults or those that need medical attention (level 1 or 2) The Pink House was reserved for adolescents. Patients usually have 1 roommate, but there were people who were in rooms by themselves
Does it treat both males and females?
Only females.
How often do you see a medical doctor, psychiatrist, psychologist (therapist), nutritionist, etc?
Medical Doctor you see when necessary and upon admission.
Therapist – you meet with 3 times a week. Twice for individual therapy and once for family therapy.
Psychologist – Once a week.
Nutritionist – Once a week. Or if you needed something, they would squeeze you in in addition to your regular appointment (in my case at least)
What is the staff ratio to patients?
Staff was short at times, especially when it would snow. However, I never really had issues when I needed to speak with a counselor.
What sort of therapies are used? (DBT, CBT, EMDR) etc?
CBT, DBT as well as art therapy, psychodrama, and exposure therapy.
Describe the average day:
Wake up between 4-6 for vitals and weights daily (unless you were on routine weights and vitals)
Depending if your labs are stable or not, you will need bloodwork.
If you were orthostatic you would need a Gatorade in the morning as well as the afternoon snack that day.
Sharps iTuesday or Friday and if you are not on sharps restriction
8:00-8:50 Breakfast
9:00 – E/E* group – Everyone goes unless you are level 1 or 2 and are in the dayroom.
10:15 – Med window
10:30 – A/T group for those who reach that level, if not there are other groups (art, writing, psychodrama, cooking group, or meal planning)
12:00-12:50 – Lunch
12:50 – Meal Support Therapy where you would process the meal/feelings you were having etc.
1:30 – Afternoon Groups Once you were level 5 there were group outings 2 times a week (shopping, grocery group/free time/school time
3:15 – Afternoon Snack
Free Time/Scheduled walk on certain days a week
5:55 Dinner
Meal Support Therapy
Free Time
7:30-8:45 Night Groups to wrap up the day or visitors were allowed during this time
9:00 – Night Snack
Med Window
Lights out by 11
What were meals like?
There are 3 different dining rooms. Support – Meals were plated for you and you sat with about 3 people plus a staff member. Once you complete 3 meals you are moved up.
Trays: About 15 people plus 2 staff members. You are still plated your food, but here you work on stopping “food ritualsâ€. This is more laid back, usually conversations and music and sometimes games for distraction to get through the meal.
IE or Interdependent Eating: Here you are given a food diary and you need to keep track of your meals and exchanges. You will no longer fill out a menu and will make your food choices in the moment when you go through the meal line. You are also allowed to choose where you sit. This was a very relaxed environment
FO or Fix Own: Here you picked whatever you wanted at meals from the kitchen according to your meal plan. Here you are not watched, you will still need to fill out food diaries and be honest. When the weather was nice you were able to sit on the porch for meals. Also once you reached this level, there was cooking group once a week at the pink house.
What sorts of food were available or served?
The food wasn’t completely horrible, it was better than hospital food. Food was based on an exchange system. There was no counting of calories.
Breakfast options included – cereal, toast, bagels, scones, muffins, waffles, pancakes, French toast, quiche, breakfast sandwich. Sides were normally, juice, whole fruit, milk, yogurt, almonds.
Lunch options included – grilled cheese, pasta salads, taco salad, wraps, sandwiches, hummus and pitas, sides included chips, juice, fruit, milk, yogurt. Also dessert was included with lunch 3 times per week (2 cookies, apple crisp, cake with icing, brownies, smores bar)
Dinner:
Veggie Burgers, Pasta, Enchiladas, Meatloaf, Pizza, Stir Fry, Fish etc
Snacks – Usually 4 options were available: Pretzels, Cheez-Its, Oreos, Ice Cream, Cereal and Yogurt, Graham Crackers with Peanut Butter and Fruit etc. Once you made it to FO you were able to buy snacks on the grocery outing to challenge during snack.
The menu is repeated every 3 weeks, so if you are there for a long time, things get repetitive. I went through the meal cycle almost 4 times.
Did they supplement? How did that system work?
Yes they do supplement. Once you max out your meal plan with snacks, they start including an ensure plus. You were also supplemented if you lost weight. If you completed none/ or half of your meal, you were given 2 supplements. If you completed half, you were given one supplement. Few were tube fed, but that only happened if they refused to eat or take the supplements.
Are you able to be a vegetarian?
Yes. Tofu was available for vegetarians.
What privelages are allowed?
Level 1/2 you are confined to a wheelchair. You need to stay in the dayroom all day. You aren’t allowed to go to groups until you are stable.
Level 3 – most enter at this level. You can participate in groups, walk sparingly.
Level 4 – Certain weight requirements need to be met, along with being compliant. You can go on pass for 4 hours. You are allowed 2 passes per week. If you can, save them for the weekends, since usually everyone goes out and it’s boring.
Level 5 – You get 4 5 hour passes. Usually on Fix Own by this point
No phones are allowed, but honestly I think it is best to not have a phone to really focus on your recovery.
What did you like the most?
The staff and patients were extremely supportive and nice. I met some of my best friends from treatment.
You had a say in your treatment plan.
There was generally a pro-recovery attitude. Granted there were people that were negative, but that’s expected no matter where you go.
There was a levels system with rewards.
Fix Own was a good way to prep for the “real world†once you left. It really made me feel in charge of and responsible for my recovery.
What did you like the least?
I found the finance office was extremely rude at times. They ran it like a business, the woman really was not empathetic to anyone’s situation. However, they did work with me financially once my insurance ran out.
The adolescents could be extremely negative and immature at times. Most spent their time complaining, hating on the staff and other residents, they were basically there because their parents were forcing them. It was really exhausting at the end of the day. However, there were really amazing people there that were pro recovery, so as long as you surround yourself with them, it’s okay.
Would you recommend this program?
Yes, I would recommend this program. I’m not sure why this program got so many horrible reviews, because that was not my experience at all. I was anorexic and bulimic for many years. Without this program I wouldn’t have the life I’m living today. You have to work for your recovery and you get out of it what you put in. If you go in with a negative mindset and have no desire to change, then this program or any program is not right for you.
What level of activity or exercise was allowed?
There were scheduled walks 2-3 times per week. There was an exercise program while I was there, but then it was eliminated. I was never cleared to do it, but honestly not exercising was the best for me while I was in treatment.
Do you get to know your weight?
You can, however I was put on blind weights.
How fast is the weight gain process?
Generally 1-3 pounds per week.
What was the average length of stay?
1 week to 3 months. Depends upon insurance, whether or not you are medically stable, etc.
What was the average age range?
14-50+
NEVER GO TO RENFREW PHILLY. Unless you are underweight and have anorexia, they will not give two shits about you. This place is absolute hell. IF YOU HAVE THE CHOICE. DO NOT GO TO ANY RENFREW. RENFREW WILL NEVER ESCAPE YOUR LIFE. AFTER GOING TO RENFREW MY EATING DISORDER GOT WAY WORSE BECAUSE I FELT THAT I WAS NOT SICK ENOUGH FOR TREATMEMT BECAUSE THEY DID NOT PAY ATTNETION TO ME. I HAD TO BE SENT TO ANOTHER CENTER. MY LIFE WAS HELL. DR A IS A FUCKING ASSHOLE, RENFREW STAFF IS AWFUL, THEY ARE HEARTLESS AND CARELESS. PEASE NEVER SEND YOUR DAUGHTER OR LOVED ONE OR YOURSELF TO RENFREW.
When were you there:
May-June 2015
How many patients on average?
It varies a lot, but usually around 50 and I think up to 60
Patients live in either the residence building (mainly adults/people needing more medial attention) or in the Pink house(usually adolescents/those closer to discharge) you usually have one roommate
Does it treat both males and females? Only females
How often do you see a medical doctor, psychiatrist, psychologist (therapist), nutritionist, etc?
Therapist biweekly and family therapy weekly
nutritionist/psychiatrist usually weekly but they typically contact you(via the “mailboxes” everyone has) to make an appt so it varies
What is the staff ratio to patients?
not really enough staff — many times patients ended up supporting other patients/ waiting in HUGE med lines/ being unsupervised
What sort of therapies are used? (DBT, CBT, EMDR) etc?
The typical CBT DBT etc as well as art therapy were used, through spots at art were limited
There were stages: E E* A T (lol the acronym) and things got v repetitive bc once you got to A and T you still had to go to E/E* (I went to a few groups eight times– they could get very tiresome)
E/E* groups typically adhered to a packet and you basically filled out a sheet and discussed it or had a discussion (centered around emotions and stuff like that)
Groups could get very large (30 people or so) but dwindled at A and T stages as few made it to these before insurance gave out — most who did A and T found to be the most helpful groups as they addressed real life situations more w things like body image and outings/ exposures
There were groups from the stages on weekdays and few groups like origami and psychodrama over weekends (weekends got dull w/o a pass)
Describe the average day:
wake up at (GROAN) 4-6 am for vitals and weights daily — usually you were orthostatic and had to drink a gatorade following getting vitals as well as the following afternoon snack
Shower/get sharps if tuesday or friday and if you are not on sharps restriction
Breakfast around 8:15
E/E* group (everyone went)
Med window
A/T group (only people a few weeks into treatment could go) or sometimes art/another group
Lunch at 12
Meal support therapy
group/free time/school time
snack (if on mp) at 3 — if you dont have mandatory snack you can still come to snacks
group/free time
Dinner at 6
meal support therapy
free time
night wrap up group
med window open
bed by 11
What were meals like?
There were different dining rooms — support: you were plated your meal and sat with abt 5 people and a staff (this was only in v beginning and after completion of 3 meals you moved up)
trays: abt 15/20 ppl with a few staff watching; you were still plated your food but here you worked on stopping “food rituals.” this had a much better environment and often games/conversation/music
Interdependent eating: you made food diaries of the food which you were allowed to choose (there were 2 options) and plate. you sat in a dining room w a few staff and it was a pretty relaxed environment
Fix own: you picked what you want to eat at meals from the kitchen according to your mp. you still made food diaries but were not watched and could sit on a porch if you wanted
What sorts of food were available or served?
the food was not too bad, but it definitely resembled hospital food. you had very little choice on IE, trays, and support levels ex fish or tofu, almonds or dressing
It worked on an exchange system, and typical meals were:
Breakfast:
cereal, quiche, waffles w sides like oj and milk and almonds
Lunch:
grilled cheese, taco salad, gyro w sides like cookies (3x per week) and milk and fruit
Dinner:
bbq pulled pork sandwich, meatloaf, pizza
Snacks were chosen off a snack list of 4 options which changed weekly and was like pretzels and mustard and a cheese stick, juice and cheez-its, or oreos and milk
Things got v repetitive as menus repeated every 3 weeks and few people made it to Fix own
Did they supplement? How did that system work?
YES a ton. your meal plan began including ensure plus after a certain amt of food was on it, so often people had to drink many of them daily
you were also supplemented if you lost weight or if you did not complete a meal/snack (2 ensure+ per meal, one per snack)
Few were tubed — it was only a last resort
Are you able to be a vegetarian?
yes but it means you have no choice in what entre you want
What privelages are allowed?
level two/one confine you to a wheelchair and you have to stay in the dayroom for most of the day but most start at level 3, which means you can walk around grounds(sparingly), use their phones
Level 4 you can go on passes for 4 hrs for meals and youre usually let on Interdependent eating and A stage
Level 5 get 4/5 hr passes for meals and youre usually on T stage and Fix own
When I was there there was no exercise program, but supposedly they were starting one up that id imagine would depend on levels
What did you like the most?
-staff as well as patients were generally really nice and supportive
-you had some choice in your meals
-there was a reward system w the levels
-generally a pro-recovery attitude
-adults and adolescents were together (ive found when separeted adolescent programs get negative often)
-Fix-own was a great way to feel responsible for your recovery/actually get things you enjoy eating
What did you like the least?
-relied HEAVILY on supplements in cases of weight gain plans
-weekends were VERY dull w/o passes
-VERY repetitive groups that were based around worksheets
-it was such a lg program you felt lost in the shuffle at times
-disorganization among staff/not enough staff
-geared towards anorexia
-Runs like a business (they groom their image — the therapists often try to make the program seem better than it is to parents)
-waking up at 4 am
-staff had fast turnover and many were inexperienced/unfamiliar w the program
-you got contracts, which you had to read at community meetings, if you broke rules and these were honestly just humiliating and tore down already-low self-confidence in most cases
Would you recommend this program?
yes, its not perfect by any means and you definitely have to work for your recovery, but it is one of the better places out there in my experience
What level of activity or exercise was allowed?
none when i was there
Do you get to know your weight?
usually you could
How fast is the weight gain process?
3/4 lbs per week
What was the average length of stay?
2 days to 4 months — whatever your insurance gives you
What was the average age range?
14-55
NEVER send your adolescent daughter to Renfrew New York!!! The therapists, management, and staff are beyond unethical and extremely unprofessional!! My daughter’s Renfrew therapist Betsy lied and called CPS falsely claiming there was no food in the house. My daughter said she never said that. CPS came to my house and saw my overflowing refrigerator and kitchen cabinets with tons of food. The therapist vaguely admitted that she misunderstood my daughter when she said she didn’t like the food that I bought. To make matters worse, after my daughters time ended (20 days), I told them that I would be doing Intensive Outpatient elsewhere because I was disgusted that Renfrew lied to CPS and broke the trust. There response was they would call CPS on me again for not doing Intensive Outpatient with Renfrew. Repeated threats, lies, manipulation, dishonesty, unethical, and extreme unprofessional are the only things my daughter and I got from her time at Renfrew!! I pray for any family that sends there child to this ED center. Go anywhere else.. Renfrew will be the biggest mistake you ever make. I wish I had read the bad reviews beforehand.. Please don’t make the same mistake our family did..
I’m so sorry this happened to you and your daughter. I’m a journalist looking into Renfrew Center and if you are open to talking with me about it, I would love to hear more about your experience there. You an email me at amy_osborne@berkeley.edu
Did you get a tour before admission? In case of ER visit, do they bring you back? Families can be tricky. They should allow significant other versus family member. Did anyone get to talk about their problem? Geared toward adolescent not mature adult. How many times a week is therapy?
My 15 year old was a patient recently and despite numerous calls of concern was allowed to starve herself until she was sent to the ER. I asked daily about the lack of supervision and was to to let them do what they do best. While visiting I saw no supervision at all. I fail to understand what this ” program ” has to offer other than a beautiful location and an incredible price tag. I would never send my child back or recommend it to anyone.
I’m so sorry this happened to you and your daughter. I’m a journalist looking into Renfrew Center and if you are open to talking with me about it, I would love to hear more about your experience there. You an email me at amy_osborne@berkeley.edu
When were you there? January-February 2016
Is it co-ed? No
How many patients were there? 50-60 girls total
What was the admissions process like? The standard phone call, more in depth assessment, labs/EKG to determine medical stability
Describe the average day: weights/vitals between 4-6am, breakfast around 8, UT groups (Unified Treatment model aka their core therapy), lunch around 12, groups, free time starts around 3pm. can turn the TV on after 3:30pm, phones come out at 3:30pm. computer time from 4-5pm if you want. 6 smoke breaks throughout the day. dinner around 6pm, followed by “RAP group” just to summarize the day. You could have appointments with members of your treatment team anytime from 9am – 4 or 5pm.
What were meals like? okay for the most part but very plain. Each meal had a meat and vegetarian option. Three week rotation.
Did they supplement? How did that system work? Yes. <50% of the meal = 2 Ensures, >50% = 1 Ensure.
What privileges are allowed? smoke breaks, short walks, phones (their phones not your own), passes eventually
Does it work on a level system? Yes. Levels 1 & 2 are based on medical or behavioral stability, full or partial bed-rest. Level 3 is the level most people come in on. Level 4 is when you can start going on 4-hour passes with other patients or with guardians if underage. Level 5 you get 5-hour passes but most people are discharged before then.
What sort of groups do they have? Their UT groups which is their core treatment model. Several types of art. Motivation. The Exchange system. Life skills. Trauma track, drug & alcohol track.
What was your favorite group? Arts
What did you like the most? The trauma track program, and some of the women I met
What did you like the least? The size of most groups. The lack of separation from underaged girls. Community meetings
What level of activity or exercise was allowed? There was a gentle stretch group and yoga if the nurse clears you. On level 3 and up, you are allowed a short walk outside once a day
What did people do on weekends? They still had groups, but definitely more down time… reading, TV time, phone calls, passes for people on Level 4 or 5
Do you get to know your weight? Yes, you can do blind but you don’t have to
How fast is the weight gain process? not sure as weight restoration wasn’t part of my treatment this time
What was the average length of stay? 3-4 weeks
What was the average age range? There were people from 14 to like, 50… it changes a lot.
What kind of aftercare do they provide? Do they help you set up an OP treatment team? They have an aftercare coordinator, most people step down to day treatment which is highly encouraged. They’ll also provide lists of OP treatment people in your area, like therapists etc.
Does anyone have recent reviews? I was there in 2005 and had a good experience but have heard SO much has changed. I am very motivated for recovery but am scared that there are 50-60 patients at one time. It seems like Renfrew is more running a business than a treatment center and I don’t want to get lost in the mix. Also two food questions- 1) is the cook good? it definitely helps me when the food isn’t gross! and 2) do supplements HAVE to be part of your meal plan or can you eat all your food in real food?
Thank you!
I was at Renfrew Philly back in 2002 (ish) and had a very strange experience. Despite being an adult living on my own, I had to BEG for admission because they only admitted patients who had “a family support system”. What if your family is abusive? They could find ZERO aftercare resources for me back in my city, didn’t want to send me back to my abusive family, but basically shrugged their shoulders and said, “Move away from them as soon as you can.”
The therapist and I definitely did not jive. At the first appointment, I tried to ask her a bit about her credentials and background. She became defensive, and they told me I couldn’t switch therapists, and if I didn’t like her, I could go home (literally, they said this).
They had a substitute psychiatrist one day, and when I went for my appt with him, he looked at me and said, “I guess you’re here for the weight loss program?” Are you kidding me?? At an EATING DISORDER clinic?? When I complained to staff, they told me to keep it to myself so as not to upset the other residents.
On one occasion, I forgot to “check in” with my “staff support person” to have her sign off on my sheet. She was incredibly nasty to me and said, “You can talk to me, but I’m not signing your paper.” Just. Wow.
My thought was they were good at providing some semblance of structure, but there was a lot going on they weren’t aware of. One night, a group of girls turned on the movie Saw and they made it 1/2 way through before staff figured it out and went insane. They have people there with PTSD – the lack of supervision was potentially dangerous.
They were very much about the money, many of the staff members were unkind/unprofessional, and I wasn’t impressed by the mental health care offered. Granted this was a long time ago, but that was my experience.
Why did you have to beg for admission? Didn’t insurance approve? Who talked to you about your family? Did they consider your situation? Why did they say you had to have family as adult women? Defeats purpose of maturing into adult
As much as nobody likes eating disorder treatment I highly recommend Renfrew. I cried everyday and was upset all the time but do not regret going and it’s hard for everyone. The program typically takes 4 weeks based on insurance and personalized though. I was an over achiever though and stayed for seven. No seriously I am 20 and was not forced into it by anyone and waited to long to check myself in and was blessed enough to have my insurance cover until almost completely weight restored. 15lbs heavier. It was a lot of work and very emotional but I had a great therapist Rebecca and nutritionist Allie. I was on some scholarship because my insurance only covered DTLA. It’s day transitional living arrangements, insurance covers the day and you are responsible for covering the night stay. Stayed in contact with lots of people. I was there in the summer with about 55 other residents. Learned a lot about myself. Call myself a success story, headed back to college after a semester off with eating disorder, kept on the weight and continued to work with therapist to deal with my issues and I am healthy enough to purse my dream of collegiate running and had a 4.0 with grades last semester at home. Twenty years old and Renfrew gave me the opportunity to live the rest of my life happy and healthy. 5 star treatment completely recommend. 55 days of no regrets and many more days of living and not enduring. Hope this helps!!
To give you an idea a typical day of residential goes like this:
4:00-6:00am vitals
8:00 am breakfast
9:00 group stage
10:00 elective
11:00indivtiual meeting or free time
12:00 lunch
1:00 group
2:30 snack
3:00 group
4:00 computer
6:00 dinner
7:00 end group
8:00 free time
9:00 night snack
10:30 bed
this is so helpful! I’m glad you liked their program, were you on exchanges while you were there? or were the meals planned for you?
Just wondering if anyone has an approximate amount for the out of pocket option for paying for residential at Renfrew? I think I have heard they do scholarships but I’m not sure
Is it bad to say I kind of liked it? Oops. I did. Maybe that’s bad but it’s better than hating it. The food was questionable on occasion, but my overall stay was pretty ok. I made some of the best friends there. I didn’t like all the staff or members on my team, but for the most part the staff was nice. Especially the counsellors. I got the most help and advice from the other patients though. It’s miraculous how much someone else who is going through the same thing can help you. The staff is well-versed and there is nothing related to eating disorders they haven’t seen, which I found to be reassuring. For anyone who is unsure if spring lane residential is right for you, just call and have an evaluation. Let them decide what’s best for you.
Hi- I was just wondering if you ever found out any info on Renfrew in Mt. Laurel, or if you are a patient there now? I have an eval on Tues and am getting mixed reviews. Any info would be great!
Does anyone now the health requirements to Renfrew Philly? <------------------------Please call, trying to stay away from weights and BMI, etc. (I am actually looking at the Mt. Laurel Partial Program which is near Philly)? *edited by admin
I think Alexis and Amanda did a great job of answering all of the questions, but I want to throw out my 2 cents. I was a patient April 2–April 17, 2015. To clarify, I left the facility against medical advice with a 72 hour notice.
The good=
nice scenery (with deer and bunnies!)- although you cannot leave the sidewalk and walk down to the pond or beyond the manor house
great counselors- I found them more helpful than my assigned therapist(b)
super kind nurses
electronic devices allowed if no internet connection or picture taking abilities (think ipod nano, kindle, etc)
diverse patient backgrounds- all female ages 12-54 with most patients being around 20
special diets- they do accommodate vegetarian and kosher diets
smoking is allowed- I don’t smoke but I believe there was 7 breaks throughout the day
ability to watch tv during free time in the evenings- (although there are only 2 tvs and it must be PG13)
from day one you can have visitors- unless you’ve been banned
ability to receive mail and packages- some patients even did online shopping and had it delivered
The bad=
geared more towards anorexia- not as helpful for bulimia and other disorders
Way too much free time- Renfrew works in stages (E, E*, A, and T). The schedule looks full but then you realize you only have 2 groups the whole day for your stage.
very large program- there was 45ish patients while I was there (ability to hold 60ish)and we had patients arriving and discharging every week day
lack of communication amongst staff- in regards to level changes and dining room changes
inconsistent contraband items- staff members had different rules on what you were allowed to have, for example, my shaving cream was taken but my roommate still had hers (same brand)
recently cut the exercise program- they offer no physical activity other than a supervised 5 minute walk every other day
art therapy has limited room- I didn’t get to attend art once when I was there because there are only 12 seats and it’s first come, first served
4 am vitals- ‘nuff said
very little food choice- basically apple or apple juice; chicken or tofu, etc
could use some sprucing up- my sheets had holes and stains, no soap in the bathrooms, inconsistent temperature in bedroom
shower problems- it seemed like half the showers were broken
toxic patients- very much comparison of who was the sickest, lots of rule breaking, etc
not enough new patient orientation- they give you a quick tour and then throw a schedule at you
My experience at Renfrew was not positive but there were many other patients there that found the program to be extremely beneficial and helpful. As a bulimic, I was placed on locked bathrooms. The bathrooms are locked 24/7 and you must have a counselor come with you and leave the door cracked. You are able to have privacy before breakfast to take showers but I always felt very uncomfortable. I was in room A4W, which happened to be directly by the front entrance and nurse’s station. Although the supposed quiet hour was 11 pm, it was not enforced and I found it difficult to sleep with the noise.
I was assigned Barb as my therapist and from day one we did not click and I found it difficult to agree with her assumptions of me. I expressed my concern but was never given the opportunity to switch therapists. My therapist was frequently out of the office and I would not be notified until I got to her office and saw the note on the door. The psychiatrists are known to be more than 30 minutes late for appointments and the aftercare coordinator never even showed up to my appointment . Although I was a patient for two weeks, I did meet my nutritionist at all during my stay to review my meal plan. As a college student going into the medical field, I was frequently told by my psychiatrist that I should “know better†of what the eating disorder does to my health. I found that to be incredibly disrespectful as eating disorders don’t discriminate against anyone and it is a mental illness and not a “choice†or something I can “know better†than to have.
One of my biggest quips was that the program is so large and impersonal. They stress how you will be included in your treatment, but no one ever received those mysterious “weekly treatment plansâ€. I felt incredibly lost for the first week as no one explained to me how the level system worked, the difference between dining rooms, basic rules, and all of the Renfrew lingo and acronyms. If you don’t follow their rules you receive a noncompliance “contract†that you must fill out and present at the community meeting in front of everyone. There were multiple occurrences where patients were contracted over something they were not told was wrong. Overall Renfrew was not a good fit me for me and I left before my planned discharge (which they would never disclose to me). I certainly don’t think it’s a bad program as I saw many patients being discharged in high spirits. As a bulimic I felt that their treatment style did not suit me and I was not a fan of such a large and impersonal program.
Hi, Do you mind saying which location your stay was at?
My daughter was at Renfrew Greenwich for 6 weeks, then Renfrew Philly for the past 3. After making regular trips from CT to Philly over a number of weeks, I found out today they reported my family to Child Services, told my daughter not to tell anyone, and told her not to talk to me for the next few days.
There issue was based on information confided to them in private sessions about my wife drinking at home, and my wife and teen daughter arguing a lot. Apparently, Renfrew did think the fact we had in in there program the past 9 weeks, or were driving 5 states across to be part of the program every few days demonstrated enough concern.
I will tell you anything you tell them can and will be used against you.
I’m so sorry this happened to you and your daughter. I’m a journalist looking into Renfrew Center and if you are open to talking with me about it, I would love to hear more about your experience there. You an email me at amy_osborne@berkeley.edu
When were you there:
November 2013 to January 2014
How many patients on average?
It was around 40 people usually
Does it treat both males and females? If so, is treatment separate or combined?
It only treats females.
How often do you see a medical doctor, psychiatrist, psychologist (therapist),
nutritionist, etc?
You see a therapist 3 times a week, psychiatrist 2 times a week, nutritionist 2 times a week, and medical doctors are seen on admission and discharge unless they request you to see her more.
What sort of therapies are used? (DBT, CBT, EMDR) etc?
DBT, CBT, Art therapy, music therapy, movement therapy (if you’re allowed), individual, group.
Describe the average day:
Weights and vitals are 5 to 6 in the residence building, I’m not sure about the pink house.
Breakfast is from 8 to 8:50.
8:55 to 9:40 is community meeting or a self harm support group.
9:45 to 10:10 is morning meds.
10:30 to 11:30 or 11:50 was group
12:05 to 1 is lunch
1:05 to 1:25 is meal support therapy
1:30 to 2:30 or 2:50 is group.
2:30 to 3:45 was free time for adults and education for adolescents.
3:00 is snack if your mandatory also if you were orthostatic you need to have a gatorade along with snack.
3:30 to 5:50 is free time
5:55 to 6:45 is dinner
6:45 to 7:15 meal support therapy
7:15 to 7:30 after dinner meds where everyone goes to get mylanta and simethcone (sp?)
7:30 to 8:30 is group
9:00 snack if mandatory
9:15 after dinner meds
After meds Pink House patients leave to go back to the pink house.
11:00 must be in your room.
What were meals like?
You start out in support which is a small room with assigned seating. There is 1-2 staff and they come by each person and ask you to take the saran wrap and lids off your tray and check it. They keep a close eye on you. The atmosphere is usually really tense not many people are actually eating and it’s very quiet. You have to finish 2 meals in a row in order to move up. This is the only room where taking an ensure still counts as a completion. Next you move up to trays, same protocol as support but you also have to work on food rituals as well. The atmosphere is a lot better, we played a lot of games to help distract from the toughness of the meals more people talk and are generally trying to finish their meals. Once you can do 5 meals in a row with 100% completion, no food rituals, and stable weights you can move up to IE. IE (interdependent eating) you get more choices. You get to go into the kitchen and choose what you would like off the menu right there. It’s in a big room with windows and they play music, you don’t feel like your being watched like a hawk, and you start writing food diary cards. The next level is FO, Fix Own means that you are fixing your own tray you can pick whats on the menu or make something yourself, but you have to have one menu meal a day. There are a lot more options and you can eat in a different room without staff. Usually once you are on fix own you leave within the next week or so.
What sorts of food were available or served?
Proteins were mostly chicken or if you are vegetarian you eat a lot of tofu and cheese. You always have a choice between a meat or vegetarian option. For dairy we had yogurt, regular milk, chocolate milk, soymilk, cottage cheese. . Starches were pasta, bread, pitas, cereal, dinner rolls, chips, potatoes, etc. Fats were salad dressing, butter, peanut butter, sour cream, almonds, sunflower seeds, etc. Fruits were apples, oranges, bananas, or juice. Vegetables were broccoli, asparagus, green beans, lettuce, tomato, they always skimped on the salad and then gave you a ton of dressing. Desserts were cookies, cake, smores bar, ice cream, blondies, brownie, pudding.
Did they supplement? How did that system work?
Yes. Less than 50% you get two ensures. Greater than 50% you get one.
Sometimes you have supplements added to your meal plan like if you have meal plan C +2 +2 it meant you had meal plan C with 2 mandatory snacks and 2 ensure. Also if you drop weight dpending on your situation you may have to have an ensure in the moorning. If you are orthostatic (have a pulse deficit) you have to drink a gatorade after morning weigh in before you go back to bed and another one at 3pm. If it’s really bad they will also add a standing order for more gatorade.
What is the policy of not complying with meals?
You get supplemented, dropped levels, contracted, or sent to another hospital to be tubed.
Are you able to be a vegetarian?
Yes.
What privelages are allowed?
3 to 4 hour passes, meal outings.
Does it work on a level system?
Yes. Level One is 68% IBW or lower and is full bedrest. You have to be transported everywhere by wheelchair and stay in the dayroom all day.
Level Two is 68% to 72% IBW and is partial bedrest. You basically sit in the dayroom with a designated staff all day you cant go up or downstairs.
Level Three is normal admission level and is 72% to 85% IBW . You can go to all groups.
Level 4 is 85% or Higher, IE dining level, and you can go on 3 to 4 hour passes.
Level 5 is FO and you can go on 4 to 5 hour passes. You can have your car on premises. You have to ask to be put on level 5.
How do you earn privileges?
Finish meals, improve in therapy, gain or maintain weight depending on your weight goals, participate in groups.
What did you like the most?
The people, the patients were very supportive as were the majority of the staff members. I also liked that they gave you a good transition back into normal life.
What did you like the least?
My aftercare team didn’t even set anything up for when I went home I had to schedule everything myself. A lot of the groups during the winter were cancelled because no one came in to run it.
Would you recommend this program?
Definitely, it’s a great program. But make sure to stick it out. I left early against medical advice and I relapsed soon after. I wish I would’ve stuck it out. It was a very positive experience.
What level of activity or exercise was allowed?
You’re team has to approve and you have to be off daily weights and vitals. I’m not sure what you do in there cause I was never cleared for exercise but I know there are 3 levels A,B, and C. On C you can go on runs in the neighborhood twice a week.
What did people do on weekends?
There are still some groups but most people had visitors or went on passes. You can go on passes with other patients if you’re an adult.
Do you get to know your weight?
Yes, except for a few exceptions where people couldn’t. But that didnt happen often.
How fast is the weight gain process?
2-4lbs a week was what was expected it was really hard for me to do though for awhile and they had to get my meal plan set to where I needed it.
What was the average length of stay?
Usually a month. But it varies depending on insurance and how your doing. I was there for 45 days and supposed to stay longer. Some people only stay 3 weeks.
What was the average age range?
Mostly 15-25 year old but we had as you as 11 and as old as 56,
How do visits/phone calls work?
Phone times are supposed to be after 3:30 but you can call earlier if there is nothing going on. You use payphones and have to to use phone cards. Visiting hours were 4:30 to 5:50 on weekdays and 3:30 to 5:50 on weekends or holidays. There was an extra long visiting day on Christmas.
Are you able to go out on passes?
Once you reach level 4.
What kind of aftercare do they provide? Do they help you set up an OP treatment team?
Depends on your team, they are supposed to. Most people go to day treatment.
Are there any resources for people who come from out of state/country?
Other?
There were girls from the other side of the country. There are other locations as well.
Thank you for such a great review
No problem 🙂 glad I could help!
When were you there:
may 2013-aug 2013 december 2013
How many patients on average?
there were around 40 women there with me
Does it treat both males and females? If so, is treatment separate or combined.
It only treats females
How often do you see a medical doctor, psychiatrist, psychologist (therapist),
nutritionist, etc?
usually you see your therapist 3 times a week psychiatrist 1-2 times a week and nutritionist one a week but if you needed to see someone or had a question you could always go to their office, write them a note, or find them by the nurses station
What sort of therapies are used? (DBT, CBT, EMDR) etc?
cbt and dbt art therapy music therapy dance therapy psychotherapy and more
Describe the average day:
you wake up between 4-6 to get weighed unless you were on routine weights which meant you only got weighed mon, wed, and fri
Breakfast is from 8 to 8:50.
8:55 to 9:40 is community meeting
9:45 to 10:10 is morning meds
10:30 to 11:30 or 11:50 group
12:05 to 1 lunch
1:05 to 1:25 is meal support therapy- this is where you talk about how the meal went and how you feel about it what was difficult etc
1:30 to 2:30 or 2:50 is group.
2:30 to 3:45 was education support or free time
3:00 is snack
3:30 to 5:50 is free time
5:55 to 6:45 is dinner
then meal support therapy until 7:15
7:15 to 7:30 after dinner meds
7:30 to 8:30 is group
9:00 snack
9:15 after dinner meds
11:00 must be in your room.
What were meals like?
you started on support which you have to finish three meals in a row before moving to the next level which is trays where you sit in a bigger room and its more comfortable next is i.e. or independent eating where you go in a lunch line and pick the food at the time you are eating. then its fix own and you get to create your own meals with the exchanges but you have to have a hot meal a day. the meals aren’t bad but they go on a three week rotation so if you are there for a while it can get annoying. during the meals we play games listen to music but once you start to move up levels you start to just have normalized conversations
What sorts of food were available or served?
they have a meat option and a vegetarian option every meal which is good. the food is all made there you can see the cooks so you get to know them. the yogurt is amazing! they have different types of meat, tuna, fish, tofu, tvp, pasta, salads, cereal, muffins, waffles, fruits and veggies ect. they have a lot and for snacks they have three options which if you are mandatory you have to pick the three and if your not then you can pick whatever is there.
Did they supplement? How did that system work?
yah they did usually ensure unless you have issues and use boots. if you finish more than half of your meal you get one ensure if you don’t you have two ensures and u have the time of meal support therapy to drink them
What is the policy of not complying with meals?
You get supplemented, dropped levels, tube fed, or sent to another facility.
Are you able to be a vegetarian?
Yes
What privelages are allowed?
passess, aa meetings, fix own, visitors
Does it work on a level system?
Yes. Level One full bed rest and you are in a wheelchair someone has to push you everywhere you go. level Two is partial bed rest and you have to sit in the dayroom with an ms (all day, you aren’t allowed to attend groups. level Three is normally what you get admitted on and you aren’t allowed on passes yet. Level 4 is when you are able to go on passes, 3 hours during the week and 4 on the weekends. Level 5 is fix own where you decide your own meals and and you can go on 4 to 5 hour passes.
How do you earn privelages?
finishing meals, gaining weight following the rules
What did you like the most?
the staff there was very nice and friendly most of the counselors are there often and are always there just to talk to you which made it a comfortable environment
What did you like the least?
some of the patients were toxic.
Would you recommend this program?
yah i liked this program but like every program you have to want to get better for it to help
What level of activity or exercise was allowed?
you have to be medically stable to exercise but if your not there is still a stretching group once a week. they have different levels of exercise with classes throughout the week so once you are able to you can go to different classes
What did people do on weekends?
they still have groups throughout the weekend which is nice but you usually have visitors or go on passes then
Do you get to know your weight?
you can but you also can ask to be put on blind weights
How fast is the weight gain process?
it varies but 2-3 pounds a week
What was the average length of stay?
a month but it can vary there were girls who had to leave after two weeks and a women that was there for 3 1/2 months it depends on your insurance and your medical stability
What was the average age range?
anywhere from 16- 50
How do visits/phone calls work?
there are no cell phones there but there are four phones in the basement that you can use whenever in-between groups but you have to be on time to groups. after dinner there are wireless phones that you can use for 20 min at a time but u sign out
Are you able to go out on passes?
yes and it is in such a cool area were you can go to different restaurants or the mall
What kind of aftercare do they provide? Do they help you set up an OP treatment team?
yes they have many different sites for day program
Are there any resources for people who come from out of state/country?
Other?
yah there were many girls from different states as well when i was there a girl from Canada
Has anyone been to Renfrew in both FL and PA and could compare the two?