
UPMC offers inpatient, partial hospitalization, intensive outpatient, and outpatient treatment for people of all ages:
Inpatient: Located at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center, 10-bed, licensed psychiatric inpatient unit that serves patients of all ages who are severely underweight or in need of medical stabilization
Partial Hospitalization: Monday through Friday, the PHP provides 29 hours of treatment a week, including two supervised meals and one snack, groups, and medical monitoring.
Intensive Outpatient: Three hours a day in the evening, three days a week, for 9 total hours a week. Includes one supervised meal and two groups each session.
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Does anyone have a recent review for inpatient?
What does the current schedule look like for PHP & IOP? What groups are there, how are meals decided, what do you like, what don’t you like? How about average length of stay for each program and is there a diverse group of body types/sizes in the program?
I don’t know what it’s like at this exact time, but I posted a comment below in response to someone with details answering those questions that were accurate as of March of 2025!
I did see that! I guess I was wondering more about more specific aspects of the program such as:
Any insight would be greatly appreciated!
Hi, sorry it took me a bit to get back to you! I had a response drafted but it didn’t save somehow, so this is take 2.
1) Regarding food, you can bring your own, have the food that they provide, or a mix of both. When I was there, the food they had was from a catering group that the hospital uses called like Fresh Market or something similar? There was a list on the fridge with different typical dishes provided by the catering group and what each of them counted as in terms of entrees, sides, etc. Some people brought their breakfasts and lunches and had food from the clinic for afternoon snack, some people brought things for all 3 each day, and some people had the food at the center for each meal and snack. (There’s no morning snack at UPMC.)
In terms of food options, the breakfast options they provided were pretty basic: different types of cereal (Raisin Bran, Frosted Flakes, etc.), 2% milk, toast/bagels with butter or a nut butter, nuts, apples/bananas/oranges, yogurt, I think also some flavored instant oatmeal? Typical (provided) options for lunches were entree salads, pasta dishes, sandwiches, the occasional rice dish, etc. with a variety of sides available, like a side salad, hummus and veggies and pita, a couscous dish, chia seed pudding. Common snack items they had were cheese sticks, different flavors of protein bars, candy bars, chips, juice, some Oreo pudding thing, trail mix, nuts, and fruit cups.
The therapists checked everyone’s meals/snacks to ensure that they were meeting their meal plan before the meal started, and would ask someone to add something if they were missing an item or needed more, though they weren’t necessarily as thorough as I felt might be beneficial. The therapists and therapist interns ate with us as well, at least at breakfast and lunch. I found myself getting caught up in comparisons a bit with some of the other patients’ meals, because some of their meals from home were decidedly lower-energy than an equivalent meal that was provided would have been, which was tough for me. (For me, eating food I hadn’t prepared myself was really challenging, so I decided to prioritize my recovery by only choosing from the options they had, so it was hard to see others “getting away with” it.)
2) All of the groups were in the building when I was there. There was nothing experiential in terms of getting delivery, going out to a restaurant, going grocery shopping, and so on. There was a rotation of the weekly exposure group themes (body image, food, social, and maybe another food one?) where one could potentially interact with others outside of the building, but that was about it.
3) In terms of struggling with anxiety during meals, typically there was some sort of distraction going on, via listening to music, playing a conversation game or doing like NYT games on the computer, chatting, etc. I don’t remember the therapist at the table necessarily checking in with individuals who were more anxious during the meal. If one was struggling to get started, generally there would be some sort of reminder in terms of like “if you haven’t started yet, now would be a good time” and time checks throughout the meal, but it wasn’t like there was meal coaching, really. Also, there was a meal each week where there wasn’t any distraction allowed in order to practice sitting with distress and anxiety, where you would choose a behavior or food to work on and share it before the meal, and then would be asked about your SUDS periodically throughout the meal, with some reminders to tolerate whatever’s coming up without pushing it away, etc. and check in in the group afterwards about how it went. In terms of anxiety after meals, there was a group immediately following breakfast and lunch, and if you were struggling and wanted to check in with a therapist, you could take this little paddle/sign thing out with you and someone would chat with you briefly. (PM snack was the last thing on the schedule, and so once it hit 3:15 or 3:30 or whatever, you’d be free to grab your things and go.)
4) I did like the psychiatrist as a whole, it seemed like she cared and was definitely smart. Her last name starts with a W, and she seemed to be in like her mid-to-late 30s? There were two dietitians when I was there, one was definitely more HAES-aligned than the other—they both work for UPMC in the hospital most of the time, so they’re not ED specialists. The one who wasn’t really HAES-focused was the one who led the weekly nutrition group, which was mostly nutrition Jeopardy for like 30 minutes and then asking if we had any nutrition-related questions to discuss, which … didn’t go well most of the time, at least in my opinion. Like, at one point the nutrition group RD used the phrase “we don’t even know what we’re eating” when answering someone’s question, which left me feeling super uncomfortable and honestly triggered. I’m not sure if you could switch dietitians while in the program, but at most you’d be seeing your program RD once a week.
In terms of “being pushed through the program,” it is pretty much a six-week program and I’m not sure if they would extend it if you were struggling and could benefit from more time. You could definitely talk to the intake coordinator about it, and/or your team if you decide to admit to the PHP though!
Feel free to reach out again if you have any other questions! I’m happy to do what I can to share my experience and I hope you can get the care you need—I know it’s rough in the PGH area, especially with UPMC insurance.
Does anyone have a recent review of COPE’s PHP & IOP programs? How are portions/meal plans decided? Do they still use exchanges? Who is the current psychiatrist for the adults in both IOP & PHP? Is it virtual, hybrid, or all in-person? Any other information is also greatly appreciated!
Hi! I haven’t done a full review but I was in UPMC’s ED PHP for about 2.5 weeks in March. (Typical length of stay is 4-6 weeks, with IOP being 6-8.)
Meal plans follow the entree+sides approach, with snacks being a certain number of “sides” (exchanges basically) which is decided by the dietitian. They have food in the kitchen or you can bring your own meals and/or snacks, and add things if they’re incomplete. Weights are done 3 days a week in a gown, and you can do closed or open weights.
You see a dietitian every 1-2 weeks, and your individual therapist twice a week for 30 mins or once a week for 45 mins. In terms of medical, you see the psych once a week and NP as needed. I don’t remember the current psychiatrist’s name, but she’s a woman in like her 30s? It’s all in-person, except if you live like several hours away. There was someone when I was in program who joined via telehealth for programming because she lived far away and couldn’t commute.
I really liked being able to go outside on breaks, the caliber of the groups/group leaders, and the fact that it was a teaching hospital so staff were generally willing to learn and individualize treatment, as well as the fact that everyone completed their meals and it was a small milieu when I was there (capacity was about 14, and when I was there it was like 6-8 patients). I didn’t like how little individual support there was, and being in groups with adolescents as an adult was rough. I ended up transferring to a different program out of state that was more specifically supportive of my diabetes management—at UPMC’s PHP I was left to manage it totally on my own, which was super overwhelming at that point of recovery.
*POSSIBLE TW*
Hi! Do you know if they treat overweight patients with Bulimia in their PHP program? I called their inpatient program, and was told they don’t accept overweight patients as their IP program is primarily for weight restoration. I’m wondering if maybe since PHP is a lower level of care, is it different in PHP? Do they allow bigger patients with Bulimia in PHP? Or is it still only really geared towards people with restrictive EDs who are underweight or “normal” weight, but not higher BMI’s? It’s okay if you don’t know the answer. Thanks!
Hi! I wasn’t in PHP with anyone in a larger body, but I would think they would accept you. The program follows a CBT-E framework generally, in terms of education and groups, and that’s a transdiagnostic treatment for eating disorders. There’s process group once or twice a week where you’d be able to share what you’re going through, and hopefully the facilitators would be supportive even if the other patients don’t get where you’re coming from.
Their IP program is definitely … very specific—I have a restrictive ED and had lost weight quickly but still wasn’t “sick enough” for their IP program, and was explicitly told that as well by a medical provider when I was on the general psych unit.
Thanks! Yeah, when I asked the admissions coordinator for their inpatient program she was extremely rude to me and said “Oomph.” When I told her my weight, which was very hurtful and triggering
Sheeeeeesh that’s awful, I’m so sorry that happened to you. I’ve also had hurtful interactions with their IP admissions team. I don’t know if this is still true, as this was 3 or 4 years ago, but admissions is completely separate from the unit, in a different building, with no ED expertise.
Super disappointing. The whole IP program was… outdated, bare minimum kind of thing. I hope they’ve taken the effort to improve it since I was there.
I was inpatient in a larger body twice for significant medical instability and I was treated completely terrible there. They just expect you to eat and there is no type of therapy or therapists there to process things with. I was treated like I didn’t need to be there and was given tiny amounts of food based on my body size. I am aware that everyone has different nutritional needs but it was very obvious that I was being treated differently than everyone else on the unit. The psychiatrist that was there in 2022 was not helpful at all and needed to some training on how to interact and talk to the patients appropriately.
I’m so sorry that happened to you, that’s awful! I guess it’s maybe a good thing they refused to admit me then. Have you found any programs that were helpful for people in larger bodies?
Did you find a program that helped with T1D?
Hi Elle, I ended up transferring to Rosewood Ranch in Arizona. I did their IP/res program for about 5-6 weeks and then stepped down to their PHP with transitional housing, which is in Tempe, outside of Phoenix. As a whole I didn’t love the program or find it super helpful, but they did have a really solid diabetes program, which is why I ended up there. As far as the diabetes component went, patients with diabetes would meet at least weekly with the diabetes educator, and you would get increasing degrees of responsibility/autonomy with the level system as you progressed.
Initially, all insulin-dependent diabetics start on MDI, administered by nursing based on the carb ratios you have, which they do the calculations for re: dosing, and then you can do your own injections with nursing supervision with nursing still doing the carb-counting, then you get to do your own carb-counting, and then transition back to a pump if you’re on one. The carb-counting piece involves two meals and a snack virtually with the diabetes educator where you talk through each component and your estimate of carbs, and she kind of “checks you off” and once you’re cleared for carb-counting, the educator gives nursing a range for meals and snacks and as long as your estimate is within that, that’s what you go with, which I found daunting initially but also helpful when stepping down to PHP. I was initially super frustrated by the lack of autonomy, since I had never struggled with insulin restriction or omission, but in hindsight I think it was super helpful to really ensure a solid foundation and practice giving up control in a supported environment.
A note on the diabetes educator: I really, really respect her and have loved working with her. She’s super smart and thoughtful and engaging, and really is passionate about supporting diabetics with EDs, and really knows her stuff. Often, my sessions with her felt like therapy in terms of being a mix of being challenged on smaller ED habits/rules I’d gotten away with in treatment in the past under the guise of diabetes management and also doing some of the deeper work around like shame, perfectionism, etc.
Does anyone have a recent review of the inpatient (medical stabilization) program at UPMC – COPE? I just did an initial call/intake with the program today and had a really positive call, so I’d love more details that anyone can share!
I’d love a full review, or people can email me at lavanya24narayanan@gmail.com or comment on this post — and Rachel knows that I’m super active on this site and have been to ACUTE multiple times and Rady’s inpatient so I’m happy to answer questions about those if anyone is interested too!
So I don’t know if phones are allowed or anything like that because I literally just walked through the unit (I work in research and recruit adolescents for a study, and my coworker was following up with a teen who was on COPE so we stopped by), also not sure about supplements, length of stay, and so on.
That said, the space itself is nicer than a typical psych unit, and the schedule is pretty typical for inpatient ED treatment (they have the schedule and privileges and rules written on a whiteboard in the common area)
Anyways as far as the schedule goes, the day I walked through was something like
7:00 wake up
7:30 get ready for day
8:00 breakfast
8:30 goals
10:00 snack
10:30 DBT
12:00 lunch
1:00 academic time
3:00 snack
5:30 dinner
8:00 snack
9:00 wind down time
With privileges being like yoga, a walk group, self select meals, etc and the obvious ED treatment rules (no pacing etc).
I wish I had more info, but hopefully this is helpful in some way, and if you decide to admit and I’m still in the area, I’d be happy to visit if you’d like!
I got a call back from these folks. They did say I can use my medicare inpatient there but they don’t take it for any of the outpatient programs (PHP or IOP or straight OP) ridiculous! *headesk* so basically they were ready to put me IP just because I’m disabled on medicare. I declined because that’s not really the appropriate level of care for me. Still can’t find access to appropriate care. Sigh.
Since 01/2024 Medicare covers both PHP and IOP. It doesn’t make sense that they accept Medicare for IP but opt out of coverage for lower levels care.
https://www.medicare.gov/coverage/mental-health-care-intensive-outpatient-program-services
Any recent full reviews? I was at UPMC in 2020 and am wondering what has changed, if anything. Some more specific questions… 1) Does anyone know if all electronics are still totally confiscated? Do patients still have to share the landline phone? and 2) What’s the census like? Are they still limiting number of patients due to COVID? 3) Is there a range of different body sizes amongst patients, or is it still mostly very low BMI folks? Thank you in advance if anyone can answer these questions! 🙂
The whole unit moved from the 8th floor to the 7th and there was a great deal of staff turnover. Staff seems to consist mostly of newer folks and students who have a loose handle on how things work around there, and the unit is consistently short-staffed, particularly on weekends. Yes, phones are totally confiscated – I am not a patient there myself, one of my family members is. Everything else is essentially the exact same. 1 pay phone everyone shares, a separate line consisting of wireless phones that cant receive calls. Only real difference is that there is no more dog therapy and staff lets patients use the guitar during freetime more frequently.
How terrible is this program? I’ve very worried about calling and not sure what to expect. Is there anything positive about it?
Try getting them to call you back in any decent amount of time. It’s hard enough to ask for help. It’s like they’re trying to be exclusionary (which they are) and get you to give up. And sadly for those of us with UPMC this is the only option, meaning in some cases we have no options.
its been a while since you posted this but I’m waiting on a call back now – how long did it take for you?
They literally never called me back. I left 4 voice messages. They did respond after I filled out an online intake form, but then when I called with questions they again failed to return my call.
I’m so sorry, it’s absolutely ridiculous that they do this to people, they never called me back in September when I submitted the form the first time, now this time I missed the call this week and keep getting an out of office message when I call back. I hope you’re doing ok, I’m sorry they didn’t help you.
Any reviews on inpatient? It doesn’t have to be super recent.
Is there a difference between UPMC and COPE? Are they the same program?
COPE (Center for Overcoming Problem Eating) is the EDU at UPMC (University of Pittsburgh Medical Center) so when people talk about UPMC on here, yes, they are referring to COPE!
Could anyone tell me if IOP/PHP are still virtual, and how it is since covid? There’s so little information on the website
It’s been a while since you posted this, but just in case you still need to know—yes, PHP and IOP are both still virtual. Technically they’re doing a hybrid virtual/in-person thing, but the vast majority of patients are virtual. I think you can opt for 100% in-person treatment, but if you’re wanting virtual treatment, your team will determine if it’s appropriate for you and may require you to be there in-person—could be only once or twice a week, depending on your situation.
Do they treat binge eating disorders? I have UPMC insurance PPO and can’t seem to find anyone else that takes it. Anyone know of anyplace that treats binge eating and takes UPMC? The only reason I have this insurance is because it is the only plan available that my employer offers. It is extremely frustrating not having any options.
They do have a specific outpatient program IOP or PHP. Inpatient is only for medical stabilization and there is no therapy at all.
any recent ip reviews?
When were you there?
January 2022-March 2022
What level(s) of care did you do (e.g., inpatient, residential, PHP, IOP)?
PHP & IOP (virtual)
How many patients are there on average?
10-15
Does it treat both males and females? If so, is treatment separate or combined?
Yes
If applicable: Do they support the gender identities of transgender and nonbinary people?
Yes
How often do you see a medical doctor, psychiatrist, psychologist (therapist), nutritionist, etc?
You see a therapist, psychiatrist, and dietician. If you need anything medically, you must reach out to your PCP.
What is the staff-to-patient ratio?
1:10
What sort of therapies are used (e.g., DBT, CBT, EMDR, etc.)?
DBT, CBT, Positive psychology, ACT
Describe the average day:
What were meals like?
You check in with the group therapist to make sure your meal/snack meets the meal plan. Meals are an hour, and snack is around 30 minutes. They are very adamant on your plate being on camera at all times. Most of the group therapists were good at creating background noise (talking and games), but sometimes it was not great and we sat in silence. You also are allowed to do your own distractions which made it easier for no one to converse with each other.
They do the exchange system and the plate plan. Plate plan starts out as an entree plus 2-3 sides. If needed, the sides will be increased or the number of exchanges will be increased. I do not know if they incorporate supplements in with increases.
What is the policy of not complying with meals?
They are VERY strict on their “restriction policy”. You are only allowed two restrictions otherwise you are discharged immediately. The reasoning is they don’t want other people to be triggered. I don’t know if they work with you to send you somewhere else. They have an inpatient unit but it’s strictly for medical stabilization and there are only 10 beds.
Are you able to eat vegetarian?
I think so
What privileges are allowed?
Once you start transitioning to IOP you can do a transition period where you have a few days off. You also are allowed to take a personal day.
Does it work on a level system?
Not virtually
How do you earn privileges?
No privileges virtually
What sort of groups do they have?
The groups are very basic- DBT, CBT, Relapse Prevention, Body Image, Nutrition. Honestly I couldn’t even tell when we did what group.
What was your favorite group?
My favorite group was just with a certain staff member as I thought they were really good.
What did you like the most?
The staff is very nice, nobody is rude of condescending. The dietician really worked with me and basically created my own meal plan to model more of an intuitive eating approach.
What did you like the least?
A LOT. This was the only program I could do and if I came into that situation again I would choose not to do it. They have a nurses line and clinic phone both of which have never picked up for me, which was important as the nurses line is typically for prescription refills. You are not allowed to talk to any of the clients outside of programming, which made me feel very alone and isolated. Conversation is so censored, and I know there are pros and cons to any kind of rules of conversation, I felt like we couldn’t talk about anything and that groups were very basic because of this. You couldn’t even talk about where you were from or anything about your personal life. It is a very cookie cutter program and definitely caters towards people who have restrictive eating disorders. They also really don’t want anyone in their program for long. I had to push for more time and still stepped down to a lower level of care feeling not ready. Not doing the greatest can be expected when transitioning to a different level of care, but I found myself not really making any progress and regressing. I brought this up in almost every session and I just kept being told that I was making progress. I am not even sure they were telling insurance the right information. When I presented what I was struggling with they essentially told me not to do it and offered little skill work. Sessions wavered between being long enough and not being long enough. By the time I reached IOP I started doing really bad and it was only then they seemed to care. My therapist told me my only options were outpatient or res, two very different levels of care. She also wouldn’t let me go back up to their PHP because they couldn’t help me. I started the admissions process for another place and she told me she would see me interim but then told me she wouldn’t see me unless I was completing a certain amount of the meal plan (despite struggling, which was the reason I was seeking a higher level of care). I was in a very tough position and was trying my best to get help asap but they really weren’t helping. I had to get certain lab work done and an EKG and they took very long to respond and still have not faxed it for me. They are pushing me to start yet another intake for their inpatient program and to be “evaluated” despite the fact that I know being in that environment won’t help and that they probably will turn me away as I don’t need medical stabilization. The lack of support, lack of individualized care, and lack of listening to the client is what really frustrated me.
Would you recommend this program?
Definitely not. But I understand that not everyone can have a bad experience here and some people can do well with the basic approach to eating disorder treatment. But if you are looking for a place that does an individualized treatment plan and a different type of treatment other than the basic form I would look elsewhere.
What level of activity or exercise was allowed?
You can be cleared to do some movement but I don’t know if everyone can.
Do you get to know your weight?
Yes, started off on blind weights and went to seeing my weight.
How fast is the weight gain process?
Not sure
What was the average length of stay?
PHP 4-6 weeks, IOP maybe 2-4 weeks
What was the average age range?
I saw people as young as 14 and people as old as late 60s.
For PHP/IOP: What support do they provide outside of programming hours? None whatsoever
What kind of aftercare do they provide? Do they help you set up an outpatient treatment team? They have a list of referrals but other than that don’t really help. They claim to have outpatient but when I asked about it they said no.
Are there any resources for people who come from out of state/country?
I am pretty sure you cannot do it unless you live in Pennsylvania.
I don’t want to discourage anyone from doing this program, as it may help, and just because my experience was bad doesn’t mean all of it is bad.
Do they have a virtual PHP or IOP? Also I use to be bulimic but now have more of a binge eating disorder. Is the program geared towards anorexic? I have UPMC insurance and no other place takes it. Do anyone know of any places that take them or have been able to get a single case agreement ?
Hi, everything is virtual. I know that they do a sort of binge eating IOP group, but was not in it. I would say that this program is definitely geared towards those who have a restrictive eating disorder. A lot of discussions were based on restriction but I don’t remember really talking about binge eating.
Any recent inpatient reviews? I heard they can take medically unstable patients and low bmi patients that other places won’t take
When were you there? Multiple times in PHP in spring/summer of 2019.
How many patients on average? The most I saw was 12.
Does it treat both males and females? If so, is treatment separate or combined? Treatment is combined.
How often do you see a medical doctor, psychiatrist, psychologist (therapist), nutritionist, etc? You see your therapist two to three times a week, a psychiatrist about once a week, and a dietician in your first week and then as needed. If you’re on maintenance, you will probably only meet with the dietitian a few times, but more frequently if you need to gain.
What is the staff ratio to patients?
What sort of therapies are used? (DBT, CBT, EMDR) etc?
Describe the average day:
8:30 – 8:45: Check in, get changed into a gown for weights (on Monday/Wednesday/Friday), and start getting breakfast ready.
9:00 – 10:00: Breakfast
10:00 – 11:00: Group
11:00 – 12:00: Group
12:00 – 1:00: Lunch
1:00 – 2:00: Group
2:00 – 3:00: Monitored Skills (which was led by a different staff member everyday, and they would choose a different activity. Usually we would play games or have some sort of art activity, largely depending on what the milieu wanted to do)
3:00 – 3:30: Snack and wrap up
What were meals like? Everybody sits at one large table with one staff member. Depending on how talkative the group was, we would play games or just talk. If conversations started steering toward food/behaviors/anything triggering, someone would say a code word and we would change the conversation. Staff would check that everyone got the right amount of exchanges and then would check our plates/wrappers at the end of the meal.
What sorts of food were available or served? They moved from Western Psych to Bellefield Towers in 2019, so the food system changed in the middle. At both places, you would assemble breakfast based on your exchanges. You could choose from what they had in the kitchen (oatmeal, cereal, bread, milk, soymilk, yogurt, peanut butter, butter, apples, oranges, bananas) and you could bring in other items from home if you wanted to. The same went for snack (which would be pop tarts, nugo bars, fruit, peanut butter, nuts, yogurt, chips, pretzels, etc). At WPIC, lunch was just trays from the cafeteria. At Bellefield, they had catered food from Giant Eagle (chicken marsala, pierogies, chicken tenders, fish, pasta, baked potatoes, roasted veggies). You could assemble your meals however you wanted based on your exchanges. You picked your lunch menus for the week on Friday. Everything came pre-portioned, so it was pretty easy to figure everything out.
Did they supplement? How did that system work? People who needed to gain weight would have them prescribed as part of their meal plans.
What is the policy of not complying with meals? Since this is PHP the policy isn’t as strict/formed as some other places. Generally if you don’t finish you aren’t forced to and they won’t give you a supplement. Your therapist will talk about it with you and you will have to fill out a Behavior Chain Analysis. If you continue not complying, they will probably send you to inpatient. In general though most people would finish their meals.
Are you able to be a vegetarian? Yes.
What privileges are allowed? None, really.
Does it work on a level system? No.
What sort of groups do they have? CBT, DBT, mindfulness, weekend planning/weekend review, nutrition, relapse prevention, interpersonal effectiveness, and maybe a few others. I actually really liked how they did a sort of survey of different treatment modalities because everyone could figure out what worked for them. It also made things less repetitive.
What was your favorite group? It varied so much depending on who led it and what we talked about.
What did you like the most? Everything felt pretty individualized. All of the staff knew everyone and they all seemed to really care about us. The size of the program also made it easy for everyone to get along really well.
What did you like the least? The admission process was really inefficient. It could take weeks to get scheduled for an assessment and then even longer to get into the program. When you call to schedule an intake, you have to leave a voicemail and wait a few days for a call back. I also felt they were super inflexible with level of care stuff. I had to discharge way too early my first time there because they wouldn’t work my school schedule at all. I get why they have that rule, but I still wish they would be a little more flexible.
Would you recommend this program? Overall, yes.
What level of activity or exercise was allowed? Generally they don’t want you to exercise until you get to IOP.
Do you get to know your weight? You can choose either way.
How fast is the weight gain process? It varies.
What was the average length of stay? It’s difficult to step down to IOP without at least four weeks of PHP first. Most people are there from four to eight weeks.
What was the average age range? All ages!
What kind of aftercare do they provide? Do they help you set up an outpatient treatment team? If you discharge AMA, they don’t do much to help you get set up with an outpatient team. But if you finish the program they will refer you.
Are you allowed to be vegan or do they treat vegan patients?
I was there in 2015 in the IOP. It was absolutely awful. The counselors lied about my weight to get me into Outpatient. When exactly a week prior the counselor was suggesting I go inpatient for a week. How does that make any sense? Had so much to do with them needing more space in the program. At the expense of the current patients’ health. I DO NOT recommend this program. If you can, go somewhere else. The staff and program is awful. They can’t keep any consistent staff. Patients come back at least 3 times. Some while I was there it was their 5th time in the program. I Went somewhere else, and what a huge difference.
do you choose your meals or do yo have to do hospital trays?
Wouldn’t recommend it they lied and told me they would support my child’s vegan diet than when she arrived refused to..she lost weight there and was discharged in a week…it’s located in a psychiatric hospital and the floor above was all schizophrenic
That’s ridiculous. Perhaps you don’t understand how treatment must work, but it would be completely inappropriate to allow an eating disordered person to maintain a vegan diet during treatment for an ED. All irrational food fears and phobias must me challenged and worked through if treatment to truly going to protect the person from the disorder running their life.
Hi Lyn,
I wanted to chime in here. While I think that on the whole you are correct and many times individuals with eating disorders adopt a vegan diet to facilitate weight loss, I personally know several fully recovered people who found that becoming vegan allowed them to approach food/cuisine with an attitude of ownership and curiosity. I myself am vegetarian [not vegan] and found that the times when I did the best in [and out!] of treatment where at facilities where I was supported in maintaining my vegetarianism.
While I don’t want to discredit your statement that ‘all irrational food fears and phobias must be challenged’ in eating disorder treatment—that’s certainly true, and veganism can certainly be a guise for some of those phobias!—I also don’t think veganism should be categorically subsumed by that designation, even for folks with eating disorders.
Any recent reviews on the inpatient program? I don’t want to go in blind , this forum has been helpful deciding which treatment is best for me.
Any specific questions? I have been there three times since 2015! Overall though it has gone downhill. I suggest looking at other places if that is an option for you.
Patricia,
Here is the template this site provides for doing a full review. If you’re able to answer some or all of these questions, a lot of us would really appreciate it — for COPE as well as any other facility you (or others reading this) have been to!
Ideas of things to answer:
When were you there:
How many patients on average?
Does it treat both males and females? If so, is treatment separate or combined.
How often do you see a medical doctor, psychiatrist, psychologist (therapist), nutritionist, etc?
What is the staff ratio to patients?
What sort of therapies are used? (DBT, CBT, EMDR) etc?
Describe the average day:
What were meals like?
What sorts of food were available or served?
Did they supplement? How did that system work?
What is the policy of not complying with meals?
Are you able to be a vegetarian?
What privelages are allowed?
Does it work on a level system?
How do you earn privelages?
What sort of groups do they have?
What was your favorite group?
What did you like the most?
What did you like the least?
Would you recommend this program?
What level of activity or exercise was allowed?
What did people do on weekends?
Do you get to know your weight?
How fast is the weight gain process?
What was the average length of stay?
What was the average age range?
How do visits/phone calls work?
Are you able to go out on passes?
What kind of aftercare do they provide? Do they help you set up an OP treatment team?
Are there any resources for people who come from out of state/country?
Other?
Was a patient way back in 1988. My, things have changed since then, but it is still there! At least now they term it as stabilizing instead of recovery. After years of anorexia and bulimia, I did end up finding recovery working 12-step recovery.
NEVER go to COPE… They lie… Staff sucks… Curse this program
When were you there:
Most recently November 2016
How many patients on average?
About 8-10. They moved the adolescent/children’s side to Children’s Hospital and then Wexford I think for PHP/IOP. A transitional unit is on the other side of the hall, which can be stressful when people are screaming or banging around and staring in to the dining room while you’re already freaking out about eating.
Does it treat both males and females?
Yes. The only difference is that males get a single room and their own bathroom.
How often do you see a medical doctor, psychiatrist, psychologist (therapist), nutritionist, etc?
There is absolutely no individual therapy at COPE inpatient!! Their main goal is stabilization. You see an individual therapist starting in PHP. You do see a social worker, but it’s more for continuing treatment stuff and family concerns. She’ll also help with disability if you need it, school/work, etc.
You do “rounds” every day with the main staff (psychiatrist, head clinical nurse, and psychologist) and with a psychiatrist from the general hospital on the weekends. Rounds are basically where you voice your concerns with the team and vice versa. Sometimes there are residents that sit in as well, but they usually just sit there and listen.
If you need to see a medical doctor for an issue you let them know in rounds and they’ll put you up on the medical board for the PA to come see you. Sometimes she does, sometimes she doesn’t. Usually she will the same day or next. And she’s sometimes in rounds as well, so you can address your issue then too. If it’s a more complex issue they’ll bring in a specialist from the medical hospital attached to the psych hospital. Presby is an excellent hospital with pretty good staff.
The dietitian is different for everyone and it depends on who you have. Some see theirs every 2 days, some see her twice in 2 weeks-once upon admission and the day of discharge. That’s frustrating, but you can request to see her in rounds. Sometimes you see her, sometimes you don’t.
What is the staff ratio to patients?
There’s 2-3 MTs (techs/student nursing assistants) on the unit usually and 1-2 nurses at all times. There’s been a huge turnover since I was last here and I think it was a pretty great one! The MTs and nurses are AWESOME!! They’re the ones that are with you 98% of the day and the ones most people end up talking to about urges, concerns, and just random and fun stuff.
What sort of therapies are used? (DBT, CBT, EMDR) etc?
DBT, CBT, Interpersonal skills are utilized. Then there are groups split up and umbrellaed under those categories.
Describe the average day:
5:45 AM-6:45 AM: Wake up (you choose your wakeup time between this hour at 15-30 min increments), change in to a gown, vitals, bathroom, weight, and either hang out in the mileu area or go back to bed. If you have a history of purging you’re supposed to shower in the morning. If you are on Fall 2 (there are 2 fall levels), then you shower at night with a staff member sitting outside the two shower stalls. You’re also not allowed in the bathroom alone if you’re on Fall 2.
7:30 AM: Nurse calls out people who get pre-breakfast meds.
8 AM: “Goals†Group. A patient or MT goes down the list of current patients on the unit, which are written on a large whiteboard, and you set a treatment related goal for the day.
8:30 AM: Breakfast. Sometimes it’s on time, most times you don’t start eating until closer to 8:45.you do get 1 cup of caffeinated coffee or tea!!
*Meds* again after. Most patients request Simethicone (AKA Gas-X) to help with discomfort and bloating.
9:30 AM-10:15ish AM: Usually a group of some sort. You are on “SMO†for 45 mins after each meal. SMO is basically when you can’t go to the bathroom or in to your room until SMO is over. If you have to go to the bathroom staff takes you and you’re watched. If you finish 100% SMO is 45 mins, if you don’t it’s 1 hour. For snack, SMO is shorter, but the same rules apply.
10 AM-12 PM: Usually group, people getting pulled for rounds, or downtime.
12:15 PM: Lunch. Once again, could be early or late. SMO afterwards.
*Afternoon Meds*
1:30 PM-5 PM: Depending on the day you could have groups, off unit time, computer time, visitors (hours for visiting are posted), nap, etc.
5:15 PM: Dinner. Early or late. SMO after.
6:30 PM-8 PM: Free time/visiting hours/computer time/free time.
8 PM: Snack, if the dietitian puts it in your meal plan.
8:30 PM: “Wrap Upâ€. You go over if you achieved your goal from the whiteboard, say what your high of the day was, and what you’re thankful for.
9 PM: Every other night or so the MTs bring out hot water and you get to have caffeine free tea or Sanka. It’s really nice because during the day they only have the plain decaf hot tea, but on tea night you get to chose from 5 or 6 varieties.
9:30 PM-11 PM: If you’re on CO or Fall 2 this is when you can shower. Otherwise, you can pretty much do whatever.
11 or 11:30 PM: Patients have to be in their rooms. You can have the lights on and read or whatever, but you have to be in your room, at least that’s the rule. Some people who can’t sleep have stayed up a bit to talk with the MT on duty or if someone is having high urges or really upset.
What were meals like?
You are given a meal plan (MP) with a number by the dietitian that has your food exchanges per meal. Most patients who restrict are started out at a low MP (MP5, MP7) and increased every 2 days. The dietitian will meet with you when you get an increase or you will be told in rounds. Sometimes you get a CS added to your meal plan. This is a combo snack and is 1 food worth between 200-300 cals (protein bars, candy bars, chips, etc). I think you’re given 45 mins for meals and 20-30 for snacks (depending on the MT you can talk them in to 20 min snacks if no one has 3+ items). You can sit where you want at the long table, but you sit at the head with the MT if you’re on “food precautionsâ€(no napkin allowed). A condiment cart is wheeled around and you take what you need (plasticware, condiments (no more than 3 of a kind), tea bags/Sanka, extra bowls/plates, coffee in the AM). At the same time another MT will fix trays that are wrong, “core†apples, and make sure things are right. Once everyone has what they need the MT will write the start and end time on a large whiteboard. There’s an MT at the head of the table and usually another one that is a “floater†that grabs things people might need throughout the meal. When you’re done eating you alert the MT and they have you hold up everything and dump out cups or containers with fluids and show the empty plates and stuff. They also ask for your fluids. Fluids are measured in mLs and are kept track of at every meal and whenever you drink something.Everyone is on a fluid min and max. You lose privileges for going under or over. Jello, sherbert, ice cream, and soup count as fluids as well. Meals are stressful (hello, food), but the MTs and patients usually tended to talk, joke, play trivia or whatever games, have the radio on. It isn’t that bad!
What sorts of food were available or served? It’s hospital food. You used to be able to fill out a menu choosing your meals according to your exchanges, but they got rid of that and now you eat whatever comes up. Everyone pretty much has the same thing, except for special diets or if you’re on a larger meal plan. I’ll see if I can remember some of it:
Cereals, oatmeal, english muffin, bagel, regular and greek yogurt, milks (including choice of soy and chocolate if you want), salad w/ dressing packets, egg/tuna salad sandwich, PB&J, grilled cheese, turkey and ranch wrap, chicken noodle/tomato soup, mac and cheese, stuffing stuffed chicken, mashed/baked/fried potato wedges, hamburger or gardenburger, french toast, pancakes, oatmeal with brown sugar, garlic/red pepper hummus and pretzel cups, pizza, juices, apples/grapes/oranges/bananas/fruit cups, jello, ice cream, sherbert, saltines (salted and unsalted), dinner rolls, PB, mayo, granola, cream cheese, ginger ale, iced tea (Turners), lemonade, grilled chicken sandwich, rice pilaf..I know there’s a lot I’m forgetting. If the dietitian adds a CS (combination snack=one food item 200-300 cals) to your meal plan they have stuff like NuGo bars, teddy grahams, candy, poptarts, basically “junk foodâ€.
Did they supplement? How did that system work? Yes. If you don’t eat 100% they calculate it to a percent and give it to you in Ensure Plus. You have 10 mins to drink the Ensure and EVERYONE has to sit in the kitchen waiting for the person to drink it or not. Tip: usually it’s less calories and easier to just eat the food. The percents aren’t exact and I believe are now done in 25% increments instead of an exact percent.
What is the policy of not complying with meals? At first they’ll have you fill out Behavioral Analysis Chains (BCAs) and you write what you’ll do differently. If you continue to not comply with meals and refuse backup or don’t drink it they will either tube you if you’re underweight, or make you eat out on the unit with a nurse or MT. If you’re close to your IBW or are at a “normal†weight they’ll kick you off ED Protocol or just discharge you, especially if you refuse backup (“you can starve at home for free”). Most patients are pretty good with complying with meals because the Ensure backup tends to be more calories than what you left on your plate.
Are you able to be a vegetarian? Yes, but I don’t think vegan, though I’m not 100% sure and you are allowed to be vegan in PHP/IOP.
What privileges are allowed? Off-unit time, computer time, Self-select, gym time (aka bouncing a ball in a carpeted room), movie in the auditorium if you have no adolescents on your floor (COPE makes exceptions to accept 16+), Bingo (every 3rd Thurs I think?)..not too much.
Self-select is where you go across the street to Presby’s cafeteria for lunch or dinner to pick what you want based off your exchanges. It’s meant to mimic real world practice. Keep in mind if you are diabetic or have to carry an EpiPen for food allergies you can’t go to self-select or the restaurant outing unless there’s a nurse available to carry your meds for you, which is exceptionally frustrating! Though I was told they are working on trying to get this changed. I mean I’ve used my EpiPen for 10+ years and if something happens you’re in a hospital cafeteria lol.
Does it work on a level system? Not really. I guess going to Self-Select and a restaurant outing (rare) is typically the last step before discharge and people typically go to SS for 1-2 weeks prior to discharge. If you stay for a longer time, 1-1.5+ months, you get an 8 hour pass, but it seems really rare.
How do you earn privileges?
Eat 100%, meet your fluid minimums, but don’t go over your max (usually between 2000 mL-3500 mL a day), don’t engage in behaviors, attend groups.
What sort of groups do they have?
CBT, CBT Skills, DBT, Music Therapy, Art Therapy, Spa Therapy, Recovery Planning, Relapse Prevention, Medication Group (if the lady decides to show up), Weights and Measures Nutrition Group, General Nutrition Group, Self-Esteem/Body Image, Interpersonal, and I’m sure I’m forgetting some. The CBT/CBT Skills/DBT groups are interactive, but basically comes from reading off a sheet with a practice activity at the end.You also have Community Meeting every Monday which is where the “head staff” you meet with in rounds and the unit director sit with everyone as a group and you talk about community issues, give suggestions and feedback on groups and any changes, bring up maintenance issues. It’s a lot more laid back than rounds and you’re with your peers.
What was your favorite group?
Honestly it depended on who was running it.
What did you like the most?
Almost all the nurses and MTs are wonderful. They’re patient, kind, efficient, personable, and always available to talk and help you out with stuff. Most of the time the other patients are nice, so it makes being together pretty much 24/7 much easier. Rounds in the morning are also pretty personal and small. Typically, the same 3 providers are in your rounds and the new psychiatrist is tough, but compassionate. Sometimes there is an intern or a few students, but the most I ever had was 6, which was a lot better than the 13+ that were there for my Hopkins rounds. They’re also really good about accommodating food allergies with the food itself. Staff doesn’t give you grief if you receive an item that has an allergen warning on it (i.e. the ice cream had a warning and they swapped it out no problem) or if nothing is listed at all (granola, which I’ve never been able to find without tree nut warnings).
What did you like the least?
There seems to be a huge breakdown of communication between the head staff and the MTs/nurses. I feel like the MTs and nurses wouldn’t be relayed vital information about a patient. Kitchen rules would get mixed up and people would be on different pages (are Shake ’em Ups allowed to be poured in to a cup?) with different food items. The MTs and nurses are with us all day and I feel like they should have a bigger say in treatment suggestions regarding some aspects, but many have even voiced they didn’t feel listened to by the head staff and that things simply weren’t being communicated. When breakdown in communication begins to affect the patients directly, it’s a problem. Lots of downtime on the weekend is still an issue, but it’s A LOT better than it used to be!
Also brand new patients aren’t really told the rules and how loss of privileges work. So many will do something they honestly had no idea would result in loss of privileges and then be upset and confused when they were told they couldn’t go to computer time, etc. I feel like all of this should be explained by a nurse or MT, and at least written down and hung up around the unit so that patients would know the expectations and what would result in losing privileges.
And not being able to flush your own toilet always sucks, but any respectable inpatient ED unit is the same way. Or at least it’s checked.
Would you recommend this program?
If you’re in need of medical stabilization and can understand that you won’t be getting individual therapy or delving in to “deep issues”, than yes. You definitely gain and they keep close tabs on your medical status.
What level of activity or exercise was allowed?
“Yoga†1x a week if you have an order for it (glorified stretching), “gym†(bouncing a ball), off-unit time, and walking to Self-select if you could go.
What did people do on weekends?
Not much. There are a few groups a day on the weekends. Otherwise people have visitors, read, watch TV, do crafts/color, talk, etc. Weekends are very slow and boring.
Do you get to know your weight?
Yes, but it is displayed in Kg.
How fast is the weight gain process?
About 2 lbs a week. At least it was for me.
What was the average length of stay?
Depends on weight, medical stability, and insurance. Typically 2.5 weeks-1 month seemed to be the norm. Though there are some people who stay a few days until insurance kicks them out, while there are some who have stayed for 4+ months at a time.
What was the average age range?
Usually early 20’s-mid 30’s. There are some older adults and adolescents sometimes, but it all depends.
How do visits/phone calls work?
There are visiting hours each day. I think 9a-9p or something like that, but they’re pretty lax as long as you don’t have visitors during groups or meals! You are not permitted cell phones (or any electronics), but they have 2 cordless phones that you can use any time as long as you’re not in group. You’re not allowed to have them in your room, so most patients just went down the hall and sat down in a chair or in a recess in the wall (kind of like a cubby) to talk. They have a unit patient pay phone where you receive incoming calls.
Are you able to go out on passes?
I think only if you’re going to be there for more than a month or two. I’ve only see passes given twice.
What kind of aftercare do they provide? Do they help you set up an OP treatment team?
They highly suggest that you step down to their partial and then IOP programs. I already had my own outpatient treatment team, so I went back to them after IOP last year (skipped PHP/IOP this time around). Not sure how they are with setting you up with an OP team after IOP, but they do have an outpatient clinic.
Are there any resources for people who come from out of state/country?
Not that I’m aware of, but I’m local. Transitional housing isn’t available. I know legally a translator has to be provided if the patient’s native language isn’t English.
Other?
I hated not being allowed any sort of electronics or “sharpsâ€. I understand the reasoning behind it, but even being allowed supervised shaving would have helped increase my mood! Days become meshed together and repetitive, but it’s like that at any ED inpatient facility that I’ve been to. I think allowing patients to have an MP3 player without wifi/camera capabilities would’ve helped a lot of patients who needed time to zone out.
COPE used to be a floor for overflow patients and we’d get a lot of patients who really shouldn’t have been on our floor due to violent behavior or confusion (we’ve had a few elderly patients with dementia), but it doesn’t seem to be like that. The beds are usually full and the other unit on the floor is now a transitional unit. It’s a lot more quiet.
And be aware that no drawstrings, laces, baggies, or full zippers are allowed! So many people come in and then have to call to get clothes brought in because of the zippers or drawstrings.
Overall not a bad program, but not great. Pretty much what you’d expect from an inpatient ED unit in a psych hospital that focuses on weight gain/medical stabilization. Things have improved greatly since the last time I was here, however.
I was in cope March-May 2015 spent ~8 else in partial hospital and ~4 in intensive outpatient. My biggest issue with cope was that the upper level staff (excluding MTs) are extremely focused on discharge within a certain amount of time, REGARDLESS of your readiness. I entered the program below, but not significantly, my ideal body weight. Previous to this I had been much lower, but my weight was partially restored in the 3 MONTHS it took them to admit me into the program from my evaluation. I understand I wasn’t as urgent of a case, but still was dangerously abusing laxatives and purging on a nearly empty stomach. Furthermore, when I entered the program they used a diagnosis reached by an RN at my initial evaluation, which was inaccurate(I discovered this later when I was rediagnosed by an MD at another hospital. Initial COPE diagnosis: Bulimia nervosa, corrected diagnosis: Anorexia nervosa Binge/purge subtype). I found group therapy very helpful, and am especially fond of CBT, because I believe it works when practiced routinely. Unfortunately, the staff continually pushed for me to discharge (for insurance purposes) before I was ready to do so, causing me a lot of mental distress, which nearly lead to inpatient admission. Bottom line: COPE is primarily focused on weight stabilization and staff rarely takes mental state into account when setting discharge dates. Also of your insurance is out of network, I reccomend finding another treatment facility, because cope is terrible about appealing to insurance about delaying discharge. I also think it’s worth noting that in March 2014 I was evaluated and told I needed to be admitted inpatient as soon as possible, but I refused treatment because inpatient costs are so incredibly high and out of network benefits only cover a fraction. My weight was stabilized by cope but after a rushed discharge I promptly lost the weight I had gained and then some, almost landing me back there.
I went to COPE in April-May 2014. I am thinking about going back. I don’t really want to, but I don’t know what else to do.
The good- my individual therapist. (You don’t have “therapy” per se, you just meet with them once a week or as needed.) She was WONDERFUL. At first I had some concerns since she is actually younger than I am, but that was just me being judgemental. By far the best therapist I’ve ever had in 20 plus years of this. I only wish I could see her on a weekly basis.
The nutirtionist- also did COPE IP and some IOP in 2009, and I really liked her both times.
D- She’s amazing! One of the group leaders
The Okay- They do try to offer support at meal times
The facilities are pretty nice (IP and IOP)
Some of the classes are helpful
The nutrition classes are really helpful, but in the 3 day a week program, I didn’t think we had enough nutirion. I think you’re supposed to have one each week but it seems like something else alwyas winded up taking that spot for some reason.
The bad- there were various incidents with patients and the very rude parking staff
Too much focus on DBT and CBT- some of the classes are just someone reading a worksheet from a workbook
How I left- I’m bulimic, and I relapsed at about week 4 of a 5 week stay. I did NOT feel ready to leave, but the next week I was magically able to be discharged. I didn’t WANT to be discharged. I wanted to stay until I had it figured out. I don’t know if it was insurance that caused the discharge, but if it was,I feel like UPMC should have worked harder to keep me there because I was not ready to leave (and relapsed shortly after.)
This program is terrible. They are only concerned with getting you to a certain weight. They do not help with any Counciling or therapy. It is all very generic and the staff is only in it for a Job. The MT’s are the only ones who seem to actaully care and help their patients. I was in Partial for 4 weeks. At which time my insurance denied me an additional week. The stuff felt it was important for me to stay in partial. However, they did not know how to appeal the denial of my insurance company. So my health was on the line and I was moved to the IOP without meeting any of my goals set in the Partial Hospitalization Program. This has a lot to say about the program itself. I will have to say that the MT’s who do the DBT, and relapse provention classes are great. The social workers are all over the place and try to quickly end the classes with not much to say or do. They seem more concerned in Refeeding than giving any counceling. Because my insurance denied me and the program did not have a team or stuff set up to appeal the denial with the right clinical documentations; I got lack of care than what I felt I needed and what they suggested I needed. I felt like no one cared and I was just being pushed to the side with no one to help me fight this. While I was there, there were girls who had been there more than once or twice. Obviously something is not working in their program!
looking for recent reviews please!
MOVED FROM FRAU
Several things about this program:
I have been to COPE several times. Be advised that this is pretty much purely a weight-focused refeeding program, so don’t expect much in way of mental or emotional healing. Go in, gain to a certain IBW/Adjusted IBW, leave. I know they push for partial hospital step down, which I never did, and then IOP, which I did once 2 summers ago.
This is NOT a program that provides individual therapy, sessions, much structure, or anything that helpful in the way of healing mentally and emotionally! There is a MAJOR issue with communication from the “bigwigs†to the rest of the staff. The MTs (Milieu Therapists) and Nurses are AWESOME and 100x more helpful than the actual team you see in rounds each morning. They’re the ones that are with you all day and night, minus 15 mins when you’re in rounds. Yet vital things are never relayed to them from head administration, which creates a ton of chaos and confusion. For example, I was on CO (constant observation) in the bathroom for a long time and the day I was told I was taken off I found out that actually the order had been written for 3 days prior, yet none of the MTs or Nurses were notified.
Also be aware that “activities†they advertise on their website, on the schedule, and in the books are limited. Though considered vital to the program, you CAN’T go to Self-Select (walking next door to the main hospital to eat in the cafeteria) if you have a pre-existing medical condition that requires you carry medication for meals (EpiPen, Insulin) or, clearly, if you’re suicidial, medically compromised, or not at a certain %. I have anaphylactic food allergies and because they couldn’t have a nurse go off the unit with me to hold my EpiPen (that I’ve carried and was trained on for the past 10 years). I couldn’t go to Self-Select to get off the unit and have a more “realistic†experience because of a pre-exisiting medical condition. Pretty sure this is against ADA. I also never got the opportunity to do grocery shopping, meal prep, or a restaurant outing basically because I wasn’t going to be there long enough, though it would have been more realistic and helpful to be allotted those opportunities in a supported environment. I was actually told that it wouldn’t really make that much of a difference because, “…it’s not like you came in at 50% and had to work your way up to 85%â€, which definitely reinforced ED thinking (not sick enough, not worthy, taking up a bed, not underweight enough, etc). Despite having to spend a few days in the medical hospital and having medical issues along with all the behaviors/emotions/thoughts, the team made me feel like I wasn’t “anorexic enough†to need real treatment and exposure allotted to those at 75% or lower.
When were you there: July-August 2013, July 2014, Dec. 2014
How many patients on average? The adult side I believe has 10-11 beds, which are usually always full. I’m not sure about the adolescent side, but their side always seems to have a very low population (3-5 kids). The adolescent side will be closing this year.
Does it treat both males and females? Yes. The only difference is that males get a single room and their own bathroom.
How often do you see a medical doctor, psychiatrist, psychologist (therapist), nutritionist, etc? You have “team†every morning which is basically rounds. You go down the hall to a FREEZING cold room and briefly meet with the psychiatrist, RNCS (Registered Nurse Clinical Specialist-I think), and a psychologist, along with any interns that may be doing their internships. Team usually takes about 5-10 minutes and you basically go over concerns, medication requests/questions, treatment issues, struggles, etc. Your first day they gave you a stack of 4-5 “treatment booksâ€. DBT book, DBT workbook, Treatment Workbook, Journal Book, and either an AN or BN workbook (or both if you have AN, but struggle with purging, etc) and assign you to do certain pages.
The first day you arrive you’re assigned a social worker, who you see (I saw) maybe 1-2x your entire stay. They show up randomly and don’t do any sort of individual treatment or sessions. They’re there basically to have you sign releases, talk to your family on the phone or through e-mail, and talk to insurance. There is no individual therapy or sessions. One of them is nice and pretty down to earth, the other is very aloof and disorganized. Both crop up randomly and are hard to get a hold of. Granted, mine got things done, but it took a few days of reminders to staff.
You meet with the dietitian your first day there. Then every 3-4 days you meet to get a meal increase and talk about exchanges and stuff. After seeing her 2-3x you don’t see them again, including before discharge, unless you are severely underweight. It seemed to me that although my meal plan (MP) was to gain a bit, it wasn’t changed at all the week I was discharged so it left me a bit panicked because I had reached my goal weight, yet am still on this MP.
You meet with a medical doctor only if there’s a need. If you have a complaint they put it on the “Medical Board†and the NP or PA will come see you. Sometimes this happens the same day, sometimes it can take a few days. If you have an issue that needs closer attention they’ll send doctors from Presby to see you.
What is the staff ratio to patients? There’s 2-3 MTs on the unit usually and 1 nurse for the adult side at all times.
What sort of therapies are used? (DBT, CBT, EMDR) etc? I wouldn’t call it therapy exactly, but DBT, Interpersonal, and CBT groups are run throughout the week.
Describe the average day:
5:45 AM-6:45 AM: Wake up (you choose your wakeup time between this hour at 15-30 min increments), change in to a gown, vitals, bathroom, weight, and either hang out in the mileu area or go back to bed. If you have a history of purging you’re supposed to shower in the morning. If you are on Fall 2 (there are 2 fall levels), then you shower at night with a staff member sitting outside the two shower stalls. You’re also not allowed in the bathroom alone if you’re on Fall 2.
7:30 AM: Nurse calls out people who get pre-breakfast meds.
8 AM: “Goals†Group. A patient or MT goes down the list of current patients on the unit, which are written on a large whiteboard, and you set a treatment related goal for the day.
8:30 AM: Breakfast. Sometimes it’s on time, most times you don’t start eating until closer to 8:45.
*Meds* again after. Most patients request Simethicone (AKA Gas-X) to help with discomfort and bloating.
9:30 AM-10:00 AM: This is used for menu planning. You basically use the pink card the dietitian gives you with your meal plan exchanges and circle entrees you want for the next day. You are also on “SMO†for 45 mins after each meal. SMO is basically when you can’t go to the bathroom or in to your room until SMO is over. If you have to go to the bathroom staff takes you and you’re watched.
10 AM-12 PM: Minus the weekends, which are extremely boring due to maybe 1 group a day, this time is for groups or downtime. Groups usually are over pretty quickly depending on the group and most people will watch TV, read, or nap after group.
12:15 PM: Lunch. Once again, could be early or late.
*Afternoon Meds*
1:30 PM-5 PM: Depending on the day you could have groups, off unit time, computer time, visitors (hours for visiting are posted), nap, etc.
5:15 PM: Dinner. Early or late.
6:30 PM-8 PM: Free time/visiting hours/computer time/free time.
8 PM: Snack, if the dietitian puts it in your MP.
8:30 PM: “Wrap Upâ€. You go over if you achieved your goal from the whiteboard, say what your high of the day was, and what you’re thankful for.
9 PM: Every other night or so the MTs bring out hot water and you get to have caffeine free tea or Sanka. It’s really nice because during the day they only have the plain decaf hot tea, but on tea night you get to chose from 5 or 6 varieties.
9:30 PM-11 PM: If you’re on CO or Fall 2 this is when you can shower. Otherwise, you can pretty much do whatever.
11 or 11:30 PM: Patients have to be in their rooms. You can have the lights on and read or whatever, but you have to be in your room.
What were meals like? You are given a meal plan (MP) with a number by the dietitian that has your food exchanges per meal. Most patients who restrict are started out at a low MP (MP5, MP7) and increased. The general Diabetic Exchange System is used.You’re given 45 minutes to eat. The kitchens are split (partitioned) so that the adults only eat with adults and adolescents only eat with the adolescents. When census is low on the kid’s side or if a lot of people are on Self-Select they’ll combine the kitchens. You can sit where you want at the long table, but you sit at the head with the MT if you’re on “food precautionsâ€. A condiment cart is wheeled around and you take what you need (plasticware, condiments, tea bags/Sanka, extra bowls/plates, coffee in the AM, CS items on the bottom). At the same time another MT will fix trays that are wrong, “core†apples, heat up cold items (this happens a lot). Once everyone has what they need the MT will write the start and end time on a large whiteboard. There’s an MT at the head of the table and usually another one that is a “floater†that grabs things people might need throughout the meal. When you’re done eating you alert the MT and they have you hold up everything and dump out cups or containers with fluids and show the empty plates and stuff. They also ask for your fluids. Fluids are measured in CCs (aka mL) and are kept track of at every meal and whenever you drink something. Jello, sherbert, ice cream, and soup count as fluids as well. Meals are stressful (hello, food), but the MTs and patients usually tended to talk, joke, play trivia or whatever games, have the radio on. It wasn’t that bad!
What sorts of food were available or served? It’s hospital food. During menu planning you pick what you want by circling it on these long menus that you turn in. Every meal there are 1 or 2 “specialty†entrees, such as grilled ham and cheese or ziti with meat sauce, along with a few “specialty†sides such as potato chowder or roasted sweet potatoes. Other than these items, the menu is exactly the same. I’ll see if I can remember some of it:
Cereals, oatmeal, english muffin, bagel, regular and greek yogurt, milks, salad w/ dressing packets, cheese sandwich (you can pick wheat or white bread, but I think it’s the same-each slice comes packaged in plastic), egg/tuna salad sandwich, PB&J, grilled cheese, ham and cheese sandwich, chicken noodle/tomato soup, for vegetarian they also have mac and cheese, portobello mushroom ravioli, pesto cheese tortellini, hamburger, hotdog, french toast, pancakes, garlic/red pepper hummus and pretzel cups, pizza, baked/mashed potatoes, french fries, juices, apples/grapes/oranges/bananas/fruit cups, jello, ice cream, sherbert, soft pretzel, saltines (salted and unsalted), dinner roll, PB, mayo, granola, hot chocolate, ginger ale, iced tea (Turners), lemonade. If the dietitian adds a CS (combination snack=one food item 200-300 cals) to your meal plan they have stuff like NuGo bars, teddy grahams, oreo thin crips/cheese nip 100 cal packs (you have to eat 2 bags), candy, poptarts, basically “junk foodâ€.
Did they supplement? How did that system work? Yes. If you don’t eat 100% they ask if you want “backup†and then they look at what you had on your menu and calculate the percent that you ate. The % you didn’t eat is converted in to Ensure. You have 10 mins to drink the Ensure backup.
What is the policy of not complying with meals? If you don’t comply with meals and refuse backup or don’t drink it they will either tube you if you’re underweight, or make you eat out on the unit with a nurse or MT. If you’re close to your IBW or are at a “normal†weight they’ll kick you off ED Protocol or just discharge you, especially if you refuse backup. Most patients are pretty good with complying with meals because the Ensure backup tends to be more calories than what you left on your plate.
Are you able to be a vegetarian? Yes, but your options are very limited. They are anyway, but even more so.
What privileges are allowed? Off-unit time, computer time, Self-Select, gym time (aka bouncing a ball in a carpeted room), movie in the auditorium, Bingo (every 3rd Thurs I think?)..not too much.
Does it work on a level system? Not really. I guess going to Self-Select is typically the last step before discharge and people typically go to SS for 1-2 weeks prior to discharge. If you stay for a longer time, 1-1.5+ months, you get an 8 hour pass, but it seems really rare.
How do you earn privileges? Eat 100%, meet your fluid minimums, but don’t go over your max (usually between 2000 mL-3500 mL a day), don’t engage in behaviors, attend groups.
What sort of groups do they have? CBT, CBT Skills, DBT, Music Therapy, Art Therapy, Spa Therapy, Recovery Planning, Relapse Prevention, Medication Group, Weights and Measures Nutrition Group, General Nutrition Group, Self-Esteem/Body Image, Interpersonal, and I’m sure I’m forgetting some. The CBT/CBT Skills/DBT groups are interactive, but basically comes from reading off a sheet with a practice activity at the end.
What was your favorite group? Not quite sure I had a favorite. This time around a ton of groups were cancelled due to the holidays. I guess recovery planning.
What did you like the most? Almost all the nurses and MTs are wonderful. They’re patient, kind, efficient, personable, and always available to talk and help you out with stuff. Most of the time the other patients are nice, so it makes being together pretty much 24/7 much easier. Rounds in the morning are also pretty personal and small. Typically, the same 3 providers are in your rounds. Sometimes there is an intern or a few students, but the most I ever had was 6, which was a lot better than the 13+ that were there for my Hopkins rounds. They’re also really good about accommodating food allergies with the food itself. Staff doesn’t give you grief if you receive an item that has an allergen warning on it (i.e. the ice cream had a warning and they swapped it out no problem).
What did you like the least? The overall program. It’s extremely disorganized due to horrible and constantly changing upper administration management. Communication is practically nonexistent between the staff who’s with you 99% of the time (MTs and nurses) and the “bigwigsâ€. Things get communicated poorly, if at all. Staff morale seems to be low and a lot of people are quitting. There’s no real therapy or any individual therapy, and you basically come out with weight on you, but just as bad or worse mentally. The team, for the most part, are nice, but not really open to compromise or suggestions on treatment. Also, not being allowed to complete the whole program and practice things because of a food allergy (against ADA and PA Mental Health/JC Codes) and not being able to go do the extra grocery, meal prep, etc activities because I basically wasn’t underweight enough to stay long enough to get to do those things just completely reinforced the ED. None of this is told to you upon admission, so basically you have no clue that you won’t get to do these things. It’s 2+ weeks of being trapped on the unit.
Would you recommend this program? If you’re exceptionally underweight and/or medically compromised and you live on the western side of the state, yes. If not, no.
What level of activity or exercise was allowed? “Yoga†1x a week (glorified stretching), “gym†(bouncing a ball), and walking to Self-Select.
What did people do on weekends? Not much. There are maybe 1-2 short groups on the weekends. Otherwise people have visitors, read, watch TV, do crafts/color, talk, etc. Weekends are very slow and boring.
Do you get to know your weight? Yes, but it is displayed in Kg.
How fast is the weight gain process? About 2 lbs a week. At least it was for me.
What was the average length of stay? Depends on weight and insurance. Typically 2.5 weeks-1 month seemed to be the norm. Though there are some people who stay a few days until insurance kicks them out, while there are some who have stayed for 4+ months at a time.
What was the average age range? Usually early 20’s-mid 30’s. There are some older adults sometimes, but it all depends.
How do visits/phone calls work? There are visiting hours each day. Usually 3-5 and then 6:30-8, but they change per day and on the holidays. You are not permitted cell phones (or any electronics), but they have 2 cordless phones that you can use any time as long as you’re not in group. You’re not allowed to have them in your room, so most patients just went down the hall and sat down in a chair or in a recess in the wall (kind of like a cubby) to talk. They have a unit patient pay phone where you receive incoming calls.
Are you able to go out on passes? I think only if you’re going to be there for more than a month or two.
What kind of aftercare do they provide? Do they help you set up an OP treatment team? They highly suggest that you step down to their partial and then IOP programs. I already had an OP treatment team when I went in, so I’m not sure how helpful they are with setting you up for OP treatment when you’re discharged.
Are there any resources for people who come from out of state/country? Not that I’m aware of, but I’m local.
Other?
I hated not being allowed any sort of electronics or “sharpsâ€. I understand the reasoning behind it, but even being allowed supervised shaving would have helped increase my mood! It’s the same thing day in and out: color, read, watch limited TV shows/movies, do treatment workbook. After a few days you’re already sick of doing all of that!
A note on the IOP: if you’re above the age of 23 or 24 be aware that there’s a pretty good chance you’ll be one of the oldest people in IOP by at least a few years. When I was there in the summer 2 years ago, at age 27, there was only 1 other woman my age and we were the oldest by 6 years. Granted, populations change, but that seems to be the norm. Lots of HS/early college kids.
This wasn’t too bothersome, but depending on the availability of beds on the other floors, our floor gets a lot of overflow from the DEC (downstairs psych ER). Most of the time the patients are calm and waiting for a bed on another floor for depression, suicidal thoughts, etc. or for the geriatric unit, however I’ve been there with violent patients who would threaten the staff and other patients, bang on the nurses station glass windows, and a geriatric patient with Alzheimers who stood at my roommate and my door screaming. COPE is a pretty quiet floor otherwise.
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any positive experiences? lol
Has anyone a more recent review of COPE? Would most appreciate it.
Sure, I can give a go at the suggested review questions for you.
I was there from both February 2013-April 2013 and October 2013-February 2014.
If the unit’s full, which it usually is, there are about 10 people on the adult side. I’ve never been on their adolescent unit, but I assume it holds ten as well.
Both men and women are treated; since women tend to make up the majority of the unit most of the time, men always have a single and use a separate bathroom.
You see a medical doctor solely on an as needed basis or when you’re severely compromised physically- they sent over a doctor from Presbyterian far more frequently at the beginning of my stay, then tapered down to whenever particular concerning symptoms occurred. You don’t see a psychologist unless they feel that you’re having a particularly difficult time coping- if you are assigned one it’s an intern that you see twice a week. You’re supposed to see the psychiatrist, main nurse and program director each day, but it occasionally doesn’t happen. Nutritionists only crop up when you have concerns about how your meal plan is spilt up or when you’re scheduled for a calorie increase.
I’d say that there’s typically about 2-3 MTs and one nurse present on the unit at all times.
They claim to use DBT and CBT therapies, but any psychological counseling is minimal and largely useless. Their groups are typically the equivalent of an MT reading a printout about CBT or DBT out to you as though you’re a group of illiterate children. I was told multiple times that their philosophy regarding their lack of therapy related to a theory that being underweight compromised one’s ability to cope with/process deep revelations. Personally, I found that insulting and demeaning; it’s more likely an issue of funding, insurance, and staffing.
Describe the average day:
5:00 AM- 6:30: Weights and vitals. You’re expected to use the bathroom first and change into a gown, although you’re exempt from the gown if you are in a wheelchair or too physically compromised to step onto the scale (in which case they use a chair scale). Afterwards you have an opportunity to use the shower- if you have a history of purging, this will likely be your only chance to shower throughout the say.
Most people go back to bed until 8:00, when meds are given out and goals group occurs. You set a goal for the day and it is written on the whiteboard on the unit.
8:30 : Breakfast. The cart is almost always late.
Meds. Everyone is given the option of simethicone for stomach upset.
9:15: Menu planning. You have 20 minutes to use your meal card to choose your meals for the next day.
Some days there is a group in this space, some there are not. They usually last between 15-45 minutes, depending on the group.
Meds.
12:00: Lunch.
Meds.
There is usually a group of some sort in this time frame.
3-5 is visiting. Visitors have to leave before dinner.
Meds.
5:00: Dinner.
Meds.
6-8 is visiting once again. During the first 45/hour you are not allowed to bring guests back to your room as it is still considered SMO.
8:30: More meds and wrap-up group. Everyone determines whether or not they achieved their goal for the day, what their supposed “highlight” of the day was, and what they’re thankful for. Shower time is available for some at this time.
Bedtime for adults is 11 PM on weekdays, 11:30 on weekends.
You’re expected to fill all of this empty time through your own devices, so good luck.
What were meals like? Meals take place in a kitchen with a single table that’s rather packed. If you don’t secure an end seat for yourself, expect to be elbow-to-elbow and tray-to-tray with your neighbors. They call the adult and adolescent wings up separately once the food cart arrives, water is placed on the table, and the meals of those on food precautions are set out by staff. You remove your tray and wait for a cart of condiments to pass around the table, while alerting staff to any missing or extra items on your tray. (They do check menus while at the table, so if you fail to report something missing there’s a likelihood that you’ll be caught.) An MT sits at the head of the table and supervises the meal. You have 45 minutes to complete each meal (15 if you have evening snack). They always have the radio on, so I’d recommend you bring earplugs if you can’t stand the chatter and droning KISS music. Behaviors like mincing food into tiny pieces or mixing odd combinations of items aren’t punished here, so you can cut it all up to your heart’s content. They also calculate fluid intake in ccs at some point during the meal (be aware that you are on fluid OUTPUT as well when you first arrive, so you’ll have to use a “hat” to measure your urine in the bathroom). When you’re finished, you alert staff and dump containers and wrappers in an attempt to prove that you really did eat everything, and are then given a sheet they’ve signed on which you write down everything you ate/drank. I found this extremely unhelpful as it did nothing but reinforce the disgust I had with myself after being forced to eat so much.
If you complete 100% of your meal, there is a 45-minute period afterwards called Special Meal Observation. Anyone who needs to use the bathroom during this time will be monitored while doing so (and it’s highly suggested by staff that you just wait it out), and you must remain out of your bedroom, completely still and seated.
I’ll attempt to list all of the foods that I recall being consistently offered each day:
Entrees: American/Swiss cheese sandwich, PB&J, portabella mushroom ravioli, pesto cheese tortellini, mac and cheese, hamburgers, cheeseburgers, grilled cheese, egg salad sandwiches, ham and cheese sandwiches, cheese pizza. Breakfast often had the option of french toast or pancakes.
Starches: Oatmeal, cream of wheat, jello, teddy grahams, white or wheat bread, dinner rolls, crackers, gingerale, sherbet, sweet tea, pretzels, bagels, hot chocolate, rice krispie treats, pudding(vanilla, chocolate, tapioca), 100-calorie oreo crips or cheese nips
Meats: Eggs, peanut butter, cheese
Dairy: Regular yogurt, greek yogurt, 2% milk, full fat milk, fat free chocolate milk, soy milk, 2 slices cheese
Fats: Salads with dressing, cream cheese, peanut butter, butter, tartar sauce, bacon
Starches and fats: Cookies(oatmeal raisin, shortbread, sugar, chocolate chip, Snackwells, Lorna Doone), ice cream(vanilla, chocolate, strawberry), granola bars, poptarts, Nugo bars, granola
Fruits: Apples, applesauce(likely the lowest calorie option of them all), bananas, grapes, raisins(2 fruits or a starch and a fruit), oranges, Jello (somehow)
“Combination snacks”: Nuts, trail mix, a vast number of candy bars, chips, chocolate Nugo bars, apple muffins, a variety of cakes (peach shortcake, chocolate cake, banana cake, etc.), poptarts, flavored oatmeal, ice cream x 2, cookies x2, Teddy grahams x3, Oreos, Fig Newtons
Vegetables are, somehow, completely optional, thus highlighting the utter importance of balanced eating this program seeks to reinforce. ;>
COPE supplements unfinished meals with Ensure only. (In terms of making meal plan increases themselves more manageable, though, you have the option of adding Enlive or Nugo Bars as scheduled supplements.) Staff calculates the percentage of the meal you completed, measures out the amount of Ensure that would compensate for the rest, and gives you 15 minutes to either choose to down it or refuse backup.
What is the policy of not complying with meals? You are offered Ensure and given 15 minutes to decide whether or not you will drink it. For the most part, even if you inform staff that you have no intent to drink it, they will pour it and set it in front of you anyway. Not taking the backup results in a loss of privileges, which can only be regained after 24 hours of complying with the program. If you continue to refuse food and backup, the course of action seems to be decided based on weight and medical stability: If you are medically stable and at a healthy weight or above, they’ll kick you out of the program. If not, you’ll be tubed.
Are you able to be a vegetarian? You are able to be a vegetarian fairly easily. It limits your choices of entrees significantly, but most of the meat dishes are not offered everyday regardless.
What privileges are allowed? As it is a psychiatric hospital, the privileges you can gain are minimal and laughable. Having privileges will allow you to go to the computer lab whenever a staff member spontaneously determines they have time to do so, participate in yoga, gym, church or off-unit time (as long as you meet the weight requirements), and be off of Special Meal Observation after 45 minutes instead of after an hour. That’s it.
Does it work on a level system? There aren’t “levels”, per se, but there are certain privileges you can earn by reaching a certain percentage of ideal body weight. At 75% you’re allowed yoga and off-unit time(if the weather is above 40 degrees you may go outside; if not you walk to the Starbucks in the medical hospital), at 80% gym (which is a misleading name, as you’re not allowed to run, use exercise equipment, pace too quickly, or essentially do anything other than bounce a ball), and at 85% you begin self select, in which you select your food without pre-planning at the medical hospital’s cafeteria for one meal a day.
How do you earn privileges? Eating everything expected of you, staying out of your room during SMO, gaining weight as expected. Occasionally privileges are taken away from people on the basis of them having acted like a general asshole in some manner.
What sort of groups do they have?
CBT- useless worksheet-reading group
CBT skills- ditto
DBT- same
Recovery planning- same
Self-esteem- same
Chair yoga- A mandatory group that makes you feel like a retirement home resident. The instructor tends to use inappropriate phrases such as “feel your belly touch your thighs”, which is not the most helpful thing for an anorexic to hear after having been force fed.
Music group- Described below.
Pharmacy- For adults only. A pharmacist basically reads you something about a random drug or illness that you could have Googled yourself.
Nutrition: One of the dieticians who runs this group does a decent job, the other… is somewhat insufferable.
Spa therapy: The woman who runs this almost never shows up. Occasionally does nice things like paraffin wax dips and simple massages; almost always brings nail polish. Often wanders into incredibly stupid territory, such as the exercise in which everyone sits in a circle and (WITHOUT STANDING UP, she will remind you frequently) flaps a rainbow parachute up and down. The movement exercises are also very frustrating if you happen to be wheelchair-bound upon your arrival.
What was your favorite group? Music therapy was the only worthwhile group that they had while I was there. The therapist is a pleasure to be around, seems to have a genuine passion for his work, and goes out of his way to learn songs that you request. It was also the only group that seemed to be interested in getting you to think more deeply about yourself and your goals, an effort which I appreciated someone not denying me based on assumptions made of my weight/cognitive state. It was the only moment of respite that I had while there.
What did you like the most? I honestly liked nothing about this program or the institution that runs it. If I had to grasp at straws then I would say the music therapist and the majority of staff members were kind enough people. The psychiatrist is very nice in particular, and quite quirky- he frequently loaned me books and once posed the stuffed animals on my bed reading them, which was probably the only thing that had me smiling for the entire week.
What did you like the least? Being forced here was the worst experience of my life and has caused a lot of post traumatic stress, including recurrent nightmares. I hated their philosophy that psychological intervention and therapy was wasted on the underweight, and the manner in which they would refer to my opinions as “the anorexia speaking”. The environment is highly restrictive- it took me months to get drawing pencils in, of all things- and little is provided with which to occupy your time. Many channels and shows on television are restricted (CSI, NCIS, Food Network, etc.), and despite the adult wing being just that, no movies above PG-13 are permitted. They tend to push psychiatric medications on you when you suffer from some type of depression or anxiety instead of offering more psychological support. They expect clients to completely relinquish their eating disorders and be committed to the idea of “recovery” even in circumstances in which the individual clearly does not want to be there, has been 302’d, or has not been helped to cope with the weight gain. The weight gain also goes at a ridiculously fast pace and tends to distribute itself oddly because of it; obviously this is in the interest of keeping people moving in and out as quickly as possible, but from a therapeutic standpoint it is highly detrimental. Many of the people I met (myself included, I should note) have been trapped in a cycle of gaining weight via COPE, going home with no psychological improvement, losing it all or more, ending up back at COPE, and so on. It’s depressing that even the presence of so many cases like this cannot persuade the program directors to incorporate more of a mental focus and less emphasis on refeeding alone. Moreover, that they don’t allow you to go outside until you are at least at 75% of your IBW is a highly detrimental practice for one’s psyche- being inside on the same locked hallway for 3 months straight took a huge toll on my will to live.
Would you recommend this program? Not on my life.
What level of activity or exercise was allowed? Very minimal yoga twice a week once you reached 75% of your calculated ideal body weight, bouncing a ball up and down for 30 minutes once you hit 80%.
What did people do on weekends? Nothing different than what they would do on weekdays, with the exception of movie nights on Friday and Saturday (although, truthfully, you could put in a movie any night you wanted to). Some worked on jigsaw puzzles, some colored, some studied/read, some watched TV, some monopolized the phone, some did puzzles, some did crafts or played board games, some slept. There was really nothing else we were permitted to do.
You are allowed to see your weight if you so desire. Be aware that their scale uses kilograms, not pounds. They say they aim for about 2-3 pounds a week, although I had weeks where much more occurred and slightly less occurred.
What was the average length of stay? I stayed much longer than average, and based on watching people come and go, I would estimate about 6 weeks.
What was the average age range? I’d say that most tended to be in their 20s
How do visits/phone calls work? Visiting hours are from 3-5 and 6-8 most days.
Are you able to go out on passes? I’ve heard that you can get one pass once you are nearing discharge, but as I’ve signed out AMA I never experienced this.
What kind of aftercare do they provide? Do they help you set up an OP treatment team? If you complete the program and reach a certain weight, they recommend their partial program. You are barred from this program if you sign out AMA, exhibit suicidal behavior, or have a substance abuse problem. They did set me up with an outpatient therapist before I left, but that was it.
Are there any resources for people who come from out of state/country? I came from within the state, so I’m unaware.
Hope this gives you some insight!
I need a review of COPE ED program NoW!
Has anyone been to COPE at the University of Pittsburgh recently? I’d really appreciate a review.
NOT recently. However, when I was there, MDs who were (and are) state-of-the-art with respect to eating disorders, were running the program. And it was awful, mindless. The main emphasis seemed to be on re-feeding people without addressing underlying issues, nor teaching/helping people to deal with the problems associated with weight gain (including the physical ones, like constipation and acid reflux). My roommate was a 14-year-old female who had “acting-out” issues and no eating disorder. Another patient on the locked ward was a 19-year-old boy with obsessive-compulsive disorder. They didn’t know where else to put him, and anorexia seemed like a close-enough-related diagnosis to them. After 2 months, my insurance ran out & I was pronounced “cured”, and sent home.
The inpatient program at COPE is just for weight restoration and behavior interruption. There are generally two groups a day based on CBT or DBT, but no individual therapy. The partial program works more with distorted thinking and integrating recovery into the real world outside the hospital. Even though you are from out-of-state, you could stay in the Family House with a family member and do the partial program. If you have any more questions about inpatient, I was there Oct-Nov 2011.
Thank you shy for responding to my question. I guess did you feel that the groups helped you change your mind set at all, or would you say a different program would be better? Im just afraid if I go there all the girls would be so sick and emaciated and treatment resistant. I want to be with people who want to get better & some that are closer to the end of treatment that would be good role models. As far as, the different inpatient levels do they let you go to the cafeteria and choose your meals like the last week before you are to be discharged or do they give you more practice time. I havent done the exchange system in years and when I would be discharged I am going straight to outpatient with a therapist and dietician 1-2x week. I wouldnt be going to a IOP program. I just want to be prepared. Do you feel they helped you and did you go to an IOP program after or no? Were the staff helpful and did they do any therapy with you?
Shy,
Thanks for writing back. Im running out of options anywhere else. I am terrified of going inpatient. Ive had horrible times other places. I wondered how the dietician worked with you? Did you see her daily, Did you pick your own meals or did she? What type of choices did you have? If you have colon problems do they work with you ? I just had surgery. Also, do you see a therapist and get any individual therapy? Are you locked out of your room all day? Are the girls really sick and not motivated to get well? How was staff? Where alot of girls tubed and did they make you sit with them at meals? How did they handle people not cooperating? Did you get to know your weight? Do you think it helped you at all with changing your mind set? I wont be going to their IOP and my concern is if they just wt. restore me and dont help me with my messed up thinking its not going to help when I go to outpatient at homw 2x week?
ANON
don’t waste your time going to COPE PHP/ IOP. If you need IP, then please do get yourself the help here but really, not PHP/ IOP.
I would like to do a fair review of COPE. I was last there for about 3 weeks in July 2010. It was three meals two snacks then, based on the exchange system.
The focus was on weight gain. There was one, maybe two groups a day, lead by very inexperienced staff, usually straight out of under grad.
I have been through it all at COPE – IP, PHP, IOP, DBT, since 1996. The program has deteriorated horribly over the years.
There is no individual therapy inpatient. Really, there is no therapy. Inpatient is purely for re feeding. The numbers are the only thing that matter. Tubes were very common on the adult side when I was there.
Out patient is a little better. You have groups. They are very basic. CBT, DBT, ect. Maybe they would be helpful to someone who hasn’t had an ed for an extended period of time, but they are definitely not helpful for me at this point. There are a couple of staff that I think are good, but the negative outweighs the positive.
I was told I would never recover. I investigated treatment elsewhere. I was told any other treatment would be a waste of time and money.
Thank God they were so so wrong.
Thank you for your review. I’m glad they were wrong too! Can I ask where you went after COPE?
Monte Nido in California. I paid for three and a half months out of pocket, but it saved my life. I can’t say enough good things about it.
I haven’t been IP since 2007 but I have many friends who have been there more recently.
Currently, the average day involves 3 meals and a supplement in the evening, along with one group.
Meals are timed. Everyone’s exchanges must be checked before anyone can start eating.
The foods are typical hospital foods. Along with the three entrees offered each day, you can also pick from an alternate list. Once you reach a certain weight percentage, you can go to the hospital cafeteria for dinner.
They can supplement for not completing a meal but it is rare. They may also use supplements to get in extra calories but they are more likely to increase your exchanges. They will use nightly tube feedings if necessary but it is also fairly rare.
Privileges include going to yoga and gym time based on your weight and your compliance with the group. Self-select (going to the hospital cafeteria) is also considered a privilege.
It does not work on a level system.
They generally only have one group a day usually based around CBT or DBT.
My favorite groups were always based around DBT or art.
Since it has been a while, I can’t say what I liked the most or the least.
I would recommend the program for weight restoration and behavior interruption. It is in a locked psych unit so the usual rules about contraband apply which can be difficult for some people.
I explained exercise level above.
Weekends are filled with more free time and the usual daily meeting with the psychiatrist.
You do get to know your weight if you want.
They aim for 1 kg/week weight gain.
The average length of stay is based on weight but can vary anywhere from 2 weeks to 4 months.
They have two units: an adolescent and an adult. They accept children starting at age eight but the adolescent group averages around 15-16. The adult group varies but people are generally in their late teens or twenties.
They will help you set up aftercare which may include the partial and IOP program also available.
There are 10 adult inpatient beds and 10 adolescent inpatient beds.
That’s strange how they only have 3 meals and a supplement at night…they had 3 meals and 3 (or maybe 2, I can’t remember) snacks when I was there. It must be hard to get everything in without any snacks. If you want to spread your food out more and have snacks, are you allowed to?
How long do you get for meals and snacks? Could you give some examples of the food you had to choose from?
Do they put you on bed rest if you are under a certain BMI or IBW%?
Are there computers available and can you go on the internet?
Sorry for all the questions…I’d really appreciate anything you can answer! Thank you.
Yes, it is strange that they only have 3 meals and a supplement time. Supposedly this is to simulate real life where most people eat 3 meals a day but I prefer eating more frequently. This is a new change as when I was IP we had 3 meals and 2 snacks. I don’t believe you are allowed to have snacks but you could have more than one supplement.
You have 45 minutes for meals and 10 minutes for supplements. When they had snacks, you had 30 minutes for snacks. The menu rotates on a weekly basis, however there is an alternate menu where you can order from instead. I don’t remember all of the choices because I am a vegetarian but I believe the alternate menu had baked chicken, baked fish, turkey sandwich, cottage cheese, grilled cheese, macaroni and cheese, veggie burgers, PB & J.
They don’t put you on bed rest but you may be in a wheelchair depending on your medical status.
Yes, there is one computer on each side where you can go on the internet. You may also be able to go on the internet during school time if you are an adolescent.
Please feel free to ask more questions and I’ll try to answer them.
Shy,
I wanted to clarify Im an adult and would be in IP for adults? I dont know how old you are but if you were in the adolescent unit do you know how the adult IP is? You were in IP correct?
I can’t speak for the IP or PHP programs, but the IOP program was very ineffective.
The staff members seem completely disinterested and one actually played games on her phone during meals and groups she was facilitating.
We brought our own food in IOP and it was checked against our meal cards before eating. This would’ve been effective except the staff members did not have a grasp of what 3 oz. of meat looked like and no one brought enough food to meet their exchanges. (I undercut my dinners by at least 1-2 exchanges everytime.)
The whole idea that having meal support after one meal per day would stop someone’s entrenched binge and purge cycle seems absolutely absurd to me. I don’t think that any of the bulimics who only went to IOP recover without further intensive treatment.
In groups, you don’t learn or process very much. You color. People discuss boys, movies, and pretty much everything but emotions and how to recover from EDs. “Process” wasn’t a structured group, at all.
My social worker was awful and inconsistent in her advice. She thought that I would recover completely and be a “success story” (thanks to her?). I plan to be, but on no account of Western Psych.
Don’t go there. Save your time and money and instead find an outpatient therapist in the area (if you live nearby) or go somewhere else for intensive treatment.
I am sorry you had such a bad experience but my experience has been completely the opposite. I am currently in the IOP program but have been in PHP and IP in the past.
No leader has ever had their phone out let alone be playing games in my four weeks there.
The staff seem to be very strict with portion sizes for exchanges. Almost every night they have asked people to get extra exchanges if their meal doesn’t provide enough.
I agree that IOP might not be the right level of care for someone who is frequently binging and purging and it is unfortunate that IOP is the only level insurance will cover in some cases but some treatment is better than none.
While of course some groups are better than others, the focus of the groups is on eating disorders. In my four weeks there, no one has colored although that is permitted. No one has discussed movies except at dinner and boys have only been brought up in process group and at dinner. Process is not a structured group but people tend to talk about what they are struggling with that may relate to the ED, whether it be relationships, food, program, social activities, or family.
My social worker is awesome and very helpful in encouraging me to do my best but helping when I struggle. My social worker when I was in partial last year was also very helpful and I can’t say anything bad about any of the staff.
I think COPE does an excellent job for what they have to work with. It is difficult to provide a program for many different ages of people who have various eating disorders. They are also one of the few programs that accept Medicaid/Medicare. I’m sure everyone’s experience is different but I don’t want people thinking that COPE is all bad.
shy, would you mind doing a full review of their IP program? I’ve been to COPE, but that was about 10 years ago! So I’m assuming some things have changed since then. I’m looking into IP again and COPE is one of my few options. Thank you very much.
I don’t have time tonight but I will in the next few days. No problem.
When were you there: 2002-2004,2005,2008
Describe the average day:
6:30 wake up, vitals, weights,showers
8:00 breakfast
9:00-12:00 school for adolescents, different groups for adults
12:00 lunch
1-1:30 lounge time
1:30-5 various groups, free time
5-6 dinner
6-630 lounge time
6:30-8 visitation/phone time
What were meals like? basically hospital menu, always a chicken, beef and vegetarian option. Once you got to a certain weight percentage you could be on self select, where you walk over to the hosp. cafeteria and choose and eat your meals.
Did they supplement? How did that system work?If you didn’t meet 100% for a meal they used ensure or boost to supplement. Tube feeding was rare, but used at night if needed.
What privelages are allowed?when you get to certain weight percentages you can participate in things like stretching,church,going to the gift shop, outside time and self select.
Does it work on a level system? kind of, no set levels but you gain more priviledges as your weight percentage increases
What sort of groups do they have? CBT and DBT are big, art therapy, pet therapy, relaxation, nutrition, exercise…
What did you like the most? staff, very helpful
What did you like the least? more hospital based, so main focus is putting weight on, the intense groups don’t really begin until partial.
Would you recommend this program?
yes, you will work your ass off and it will suck, but as much as i hate to say it, they do everything right…
What level of activity or exercise was allowed? once you get to a certain weight percentage you are allowed yoga and stretching and outside time…
What did people do on weekends?theres alot more visitation hours and if you are on higher levels there are weekly and monthly outings that occur on weekends…
Do you get to know your weight? yes unless you choose not to
How fast is the weight gain process? they like 2-3lbs. per week
What was the average length of stay? depends on your progress & insurance anywhere from 3 weeks to 5 months
What was the average age range? ive been there with 12 yr olds and 60 yr olds so i would say wide…
What kind of aftercare do they provide? they have a partial hospitalization program, and intensive outpaient and an outpatient…
How many IP beds?id say about 15-20