Carolina House is an eating disorder and mental health treatment center located in North Carolina. It offers Residential Eating Disorder Treatment (age 17+), Residential Mental Health Disorder Treatment (age 18+), PHP (age 17+), and IOP (age 17+) treatment to people of all genders. Any updated reviews? Please post in comments below! You can check out the FAQ and Guidelines for suggested questions. Thank you!

Just an FYI that I heard from someone else that they are closing and notified staff of that last week.
Yes, they are closing all programing in NC. They told professionals last week because my RD already knew before the press release a few days ago. It is highly suspicious that the owning company (Acadia) is closing CH just after a new 144 bed inpatient for profit psychiatric hospital that they own is opening. Unfortunately, this leaves the Emily program (Veritas Collaborative) as the only specialized option for ip/res for adults and children in NC. At one point we had excellent access to care within a reasonable distance statewide, not anymore.
Acadia is a plague to eating disorder treatment and eating disorder recovery.
I think you’re right about them closing it because they are opening the for-profit psychiatric hospital. There is literally no other reason for them to close Carolina House. According to a Behavioral Health Business article from a couple days ago: “Eating disorder services are part of Acadia Healthcare’s specialty treatment facility division. This division has recently seen a slight dip in its overall contribution to the company’s revenue. In 2021, the specialty treatment facility made up 22% of the company’s revenue. That share was 19% in 2024. Last year, Acadia’s largest revenue share (53%) came from its acute inpatient psychiatric facilities.”
https://bhbusiness.com/2025/09/15/acadia-healthcare-to-lay-off-90-as-part-of-eating-disorder-treatment-facility-closure/
WOW. Not to mention their acute inpatient psych facilities are known to be predatory in the name of increasing revenue. How painful to see yet another way that the company is harming people.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/01/business/acadia-psychiatric-patients-trapped.html
This has been a troubling trend in the ED treatment industry for the past couple of years. CFD for example closed a TON of their locations back in 2023 while pouring more funds into their sister divisions (Discovery Mood & Anxiety and their substance use treatment centers). A lot of companies are just looking at the $$$, because yeah, it IS true that ED treatment costs more to run than a pure psychiatric or a substance use program. The food alone eats up a huge cost, plus we have an additional healthcare provider we HAVE to employ (a dietitian). But ED treatment is NEEDED, regardless of the high cost, and it sucks that the privately owned companies just see dollar signs.
What can I say? Carolina house saved my life!! I read the reviews before going back in November and it did concern me, but when I got there I was at ease and knew I was in the right place. Yes, just like all facilities, they have their own problems with staff, but your treatment is what you make it and you “HAVE” to advocate for yourself and that is anywhere you go. If you feel that you need a BHA to sit with you personally at meal and snack times all you have to do is ask. The ones there during my stay were the best. Group therapy is the focus at this facility and for a very good reason. I was skeptical at first, but once I started the groups, I realized that even though these people’s stories not the same as mine, they understand me, and they know how I feel. In group others are able to share their wisdom and experiences. Is Carolina House perfect? No, but I made the most of my treatment and I did the work. You have to focus on your own recovery not what is happening around you. If it does involve you, ADVOCATE. There are so many people you can talk to and they will listen. They are there for YOU!.
Wondering if they accommodate dietary restrictions like gluten free and lactose intolerant? How are they with ARFID patients who experience pain when eating? What are the room situations like?
I was at Carolina House from for 6 weeks in Jan 2016 and they were very accommodating with GF food. I was actually diagnosed with celiacs while I was there – blood test and follow up endoscopy. They always made sure to have plenty of GF options available. I can’t speak for what it’s like now, but it was good when I attended.
Do not go here or send a loved one here. ESPECIALLY if you haven’t experienced residential treatment before. I left after not even 48 hours. Support during meal times is vital for anyone in recovery, and the Carolina House might as well not have provided any. There was one BHA for 4 tables of people, so we might as well have had the meals/snacks on our own. There was clearly a lack of understanding about working with eating disorders. There were hardly any check offs for completion or supplementation. That being said, behaviors could easily be used during meal times. The facility itself was unkept, messy, and dirty in some places. There was substance use in the house (in secrecy) which can disrupt people’s recovery. There were 3 patients to a room, with only one closet to share. The phone policy was very lax, which I personally appreciated, but this would have negatively affected my recovery SIGNIFICANTLY my first time in treatment. I am posting all of this because I truly hope that no one attends this program and receives this inadequate treatment.
This program is billing patients insurance for a full program when they are supplying close to ZERO therapy. In the two and a half weeks that I was there, I was promised that I would have individual therapy two times, (one session for at least 52 minutes and another for 30 minutes) each week, as well as one family session. I did not receive ONE individual session and only one family session during the entirety of my stay. We also frequently did not have group therapy, which was promised when I arrived. In the two weeks that I was there, I had a total of 3 group therapy sessions, not including the insane amount of art therapy and yoga, which were the only groups that they were able to reliably staff. I met with a dietitian once while there and she was completely incompetent, and I was never informed of my meal plan. When I was there I was prescribed 10mg of a medication by a fill in psychiatrist and when the permanent psychiatrist came back she stated that no one should be prescribed that much of that medication. This fill in psychiatrist was also extremely unprofessional and asked me what my favorite food was, and when I responded by saying pasta, she laughed and said: “that can’t possibly be true because you are an anorexic”. While there, I learned that the program decided to remove the protocol that would require a medical exam for perspective patients to insure that this was the right level of care, in order to be able to admit more patients. This is a horrifically irresponsible and dangerous practice that could end up getting a patient killed. In the time that I was there, I also learned that they did not even have a therapist on staff, which was obviously not told to me when I was in the process of intake. When we finally had someone come in, it was the clinical director, who is NOT a therapist. While meeting with him he asked me if I would write a positive review for the program on Google. I also learned that he shared information that I told him in this session with other members of staff. During my time in PHP, we frequently did not have groups, and on two separate occasions me and the other patients were left standing outside for almost an hour after we were supposed to be there, waiting for someone to show up and unlock the door. When we met with the program director, M*****, he completely disrespected us and disregarded every single concern that we had about the program. Please DO NOT send your loved one to this program. This program is COMPLETELY unprofessional, and is committing insurance fraud. The program is lying to everyone including the insurance companies about the care that they are giving people. I could not in good conscience recommend this program to anyone.
I cannot agree more. I left this place so much worse than when I went in and despite begging for help in finding a higher level of care I was basically ignored. On more than one occasion they forgot to get me for meals. It was HORRIFIC. They also stole money out of my wallet and when I called about it they said I must have broken into the lockbox. I am not James Bond or some bank robber. It was insanity. TRASH!
Any reviews from this year
Anyone have updates on what it’s like here? Are the any consequences for those who still use behaviors [while in treatment]? Looking at admission and don’t want to be around that …
hello, i’m going to be admitted here recently and i’m very nervous, is there any advice from past residents or any recommendations on anything?
The biggest thing is focusing on your recovery not what is going on around you. It is a wonderful place if you are open minded to learning how to heal. I focused on my treatment and my healing. I made friends there, but If I needed to talk to someone, I talked I didn’t care if it was the nurse, BHA , therapist, dietitian, or CEO. They all listened to me, even the therapists who were not mine lol. They are wonderful. You may not jive with everyone there and you may not agree with certain things and in that case advocate for yourself if it affects your treatment. You will get out of it what you put into it. They are there to teach you, guide you, and care for you, but you have to do the work 🙂
Hi! I dont know anything but I have looked at here before and after you leave would be great if you could update us on how things went and possibly do a review? I know a lot has changed and would be really helpful to the community. Good luck in treatment~
Has anyone been here recently? I am supposed to admit Monday. Do you know what the weight gain process is like? Is it individualized or do they base everything just on bmi criteria instead of weight history and genetics?
Does anyone know if Carolina house would take someone turning 17 soon but not 17 at time of admission?
hi I’m about to be admitted to Carolina house on Monday. Can someone tell me what their bathroom to patient ratio is? Also what is there stance on patients leaving AMA?
I just left there AMA this past Monday and I was there for the whole program back in 2017. I was at the Estate and they were severely understaffed, made promises to us as patients they couldn’t keep, and refused to take me to urgent care to get what turned out to be both an inner and outer ear infection because it wasn’t a medical emergency (it was Labor Day so the usual Physician’s Assistant wasn’t there). I was in so much pain I was begging and sobbing to get a doctor to look at my ear. The awful nurse that was there that day was also very rude and condescending and dismissed me as being hysterical all while misgendering me. After I finally was able to go to urgent care, I came back and then was AMA by 6:30p that evening.
If you’re at the Estate 1:6; if you’re at the Homestead I believe it is 1:8.
Make sure you don’t bring any cash in your wallet; patients’ money in big bills went missing during intake while an RPA did the search through their belongings.
I get that people need help with their ED, but honestly I thought 2017 was rough because the Estate had just opened up the month before I arrived. It turns out, Carolina House has gotten worse.
I can’t in good conscience recommend Carolina House right now. None of our issues were ever really addressed. One patient I met there is currently in the hospital for SI and intrusive thoughts because she couldn’t get a chance to talk with the psychiatrist to change the meds she though were causing her violent intrusive thoughts and ideations.
That whole place is a mess. One poor woman who works nights, *****, volunteered to cover for a little longer, but then they kept needed her to do things and she ended up stay clocked in for a full 24 hrs. The RPA ***** is amazing and wonderful; I’m not sure she’s going to last there long however, given what she witnessed.
Oh wow I’m so sorry that sounds horrible. Unfortunately I have to do a direct admit but already thinking based on what I’ve read I’m not going to want to stay there. I have read they try to keep you and stop you from leaving AMA. What was your experience like when you said you wanted to leave? Like did they try to tell you you can’t or did they make you do anything in order to leave?
I mean, they really didn’t try to stop me but I think that had to more to do with the fact that the therapist AND the RPA who were there with us most of the time saw how I was being treated. I was the only patient that was there that was able to leave AMA because the rest of the people at the Estate were forced there by families and risked homelessness if they left (which isn’t on Carolina House this time).
I was literally crying and screaming and begging I was in so much pain AND sensory hell and the nurse and PA were still saying that because it wasn’t a medical emergency they couldn’t do anything until the next day when the PA came back in the office. I am honestly considering a malpractice suit because that is against just about every patient right.
CH can’t keep you as they aren’t a locked facility. So, although patients’ families etc kept them from leaving, you can leave. They will probably try to convince you to stay and you MAY have issues with insurance going forward, but it is not a hold facility.
Sometimes places can really make you feel bad for leaving, but only you can decide what you need to do.
Not true, I tried to ama and they wanted to get a legal team involved
You could have just walked out and not even signed yourself out. I think facilities bully people into staying. Unless they felt you were a danger to yourself or someone else, then they would call. I think every patient should know their rights. CH is not a hold facility.
Is A*** still there? She was all my time favorite. And nurse K***. I did the program from last December til feb of this year, and it was so understaffed then. I thought maybe it would get better. I’m so sorry your stay was bad. ?
***admin note: no names allowed, redacted per site policy
Hi all, have heard good reviews of Carolina House, and my therapist is urging me to look into it. However, I’m a type 1 diabetic, and I know many programs (esp. without inpatient units or high levels of RN support) won’t take us. Does anyone know if CH accepts diabetics? Fwiw, I’m not manipulating insulin or anything – I have AN-B/P. I’ve been to CFC twice, and while it’s a great program, I think I need to try something different.
Sigh. Was v. much hoping to avoid IP/Res, but it’s not looking super hopeful at this point 🙁
I can’t speak to how they are now, especially since their ownership has changed since I was there in 2019, but one of the clients I was there with when I went to Carolina House was a type 1 diabetic, so they’ve taken them before!
Personally it’s not a great program, There’s a lack of support if not none at all. So many people get away with using behaviors. If you truly want to get better it is all up to you, you can’t rely on support.
Thank you. That will definitely not work for me… if others are using behaviors, I will, too, so CH is prob not a good fit.
Of course! And I struggled with not restricting and I having myself because so many were doing it around me. I’ve heard good things about magnolia creek!
Hi Anon- I just wondered what you have heard about Magnolia Creek? I’m considering their adult res. Thanks!
hey! I’m checking in here soon and I’m from out of state. is there any advice anybody can give me? they said I have a bed in the LGBT/gender inclusive housing which is great for me. what’re meals like? what’s the phone policy? is there anything in specific I can’t bring? I went and bought new and closed products (body wash, makeup, etc) but does that matter? can I bring any heat styling tools? how often is therapy? are they okay with people with chronic health issues (epilepsy, heart issues, etc)? I’ll be going back to my home state after to do their sister program PHP that just couldn’t get me in before a month and tbh I can’t wait that long safely. thank you guys.
Wishing you all the very best!! You’ll be able to have your phone most days from 5-6 and 7:15-8:45, and more on the weekends. If you need it for something specific, talk to your therapist or someone, and they’re usually pretty reasonable about making accommodations. You can have iPads and laptops in addition to your phone, and you can charge during the day even when you’re not with it. They don’t care if your products are new/closed, so if there’s something you’re hoping to bring that’s already open, toss it in! You can bring a flat iron/curling iron, no problem! Therapy is theoretically 3 times a week (one personal, one family, one check-in), but in my experience it didn’t work out that way (unfortunately, mine was less). I know they deal with treating people with other chronic health issues, but make sure you’re ready to advocate for yourself/your needs because sometimes things get missed. I posted some meal information below that I hope is helpful. It’s a really tough decision to make, and I hope the experience is helpful to you!
This makes me feel so much better. I’m going to treatment sixteen hours away, so I’m glad to know I can use my phone!! When did you attend if it’s not too invasive to ask? Is there anything in specific I should know that stands out to you?
Thank you so so much. Wishing you wellness x ♥️
It’s so challenging to be so far away! There were other people there from many states away, so you won’t be alone in that! I attended for a week in early April, so pretty recently. I’d really recommend ordering a pillow and blanket or something so it would be there your first night there. I was really overwhelmed in the beginning, and it made a huge difference to have something that was actually cozy (the pillows they provide are really thin and so are the blankets!). I downloaded movies on my iPad, and that was also really helpful! Sitting outside was my favorite part, so I was happy to have sunscreen and a picnic blanket. All that said, don’t worry too too much about packing–you can order anything you might need from online, and people are always willing to help you out. The other residents are incredibly kind. There are some moments and parts that are very frustrating, and it helped me to lean into the friends I made there, support from home, and outdoor environment to re-center myself. It’s easy to feel like you’re only your eating disorder when you’re in spaces where you’re thinking of it so much, so anything that reminded me that I was more than that was really important. I hope that makes sense, and I hope it’s a good experience! I’ll check back, so let me know if there are any more questions that pop up as you’re getting ready!
wow you are wonderful! thank you so so much. I’ll for sure update here. I admit wednesday afternoon after my flight. I got the schedule ahead of time and that was so nice. again, thank you so much. I’ve been terrified but this has been helpful!
Hi! I’m admitting soon and would love to know any recent things on the schedule/ workers , the food, what to bring and what not to bring, and the electronic policy
I left a message below on food that might be helpful! For electronics, know that you can bring your iPad and/or laptop (the iPad was great for me–I downloaded Netflix shows on it and that was really helpful!). Board games and puzzles are great–just anything that helps time pass. Now that it’s summer, you might want a picnic blanket or camp chair (like a crazy creek) to enjoy while outside. The ability to go outside was one of the best parts! Would absolutely say to bring your own pillow and definitely at least one thick-ish blanket. The blankets and pillows they have are really thin, and there didn’t seem to be many extras. I’m happy to answer any other questions you might have!
Thanks! Do you get to go to church? And what about outings? When do you have access to phones and electronics? Are any counselors Christian and could I ask for one? Is their a New-age crystals type stuff… That’s not my preference. What kind of physical activity is allowed? How are the staff? How are the groups? Does stuff run on schedule? Is it a nice atmosphere? Could you do one of the full reviews where you answer all those typical set of questions? Thanks!
You can go to church, but I think it’s dependent on the group because they can only have one religious outing per week because of staffing. You have access to phone and electronics dependably between 7:15-8:45 in the evenings, usually from 5-6 as well, and more on weekends (particularly Sundays). Religion wasn’t really mentioned, and I’m not sure if you can ask for a Christian counselor. I didn’t encounter new-age things (which I also appreciated). The physical activity is super limited. Some yoga (sometimes it’s just mindfulness) and we went on one walk down the driveway (not far). But I wasn’t there for long. The staff are okay. You can tell that a lot of them really care about their jobs, but there’s kind of a mentality of “this is what’s happening because that’s the way it is,” rather than meeting individual needs. I was particularly disappointed in the therapists; I met with them for very little time and the groups were lacking in content and could be outright condescending. Further, I struggled with the lack of communication amongst staff. I had real needs, but my therapist didn’t adequately communicate them, so I was stuck. Groups are mostly a joke and it feels like they are just filling time between eating events. Therapists would read off a sheet of paper, and would come in and say things like “clearly no one in here has this skill,” which felt really condescending. The people were lovely and had been through some intense life events, but it felt like we were only seen for our eating disorders, and it felt like we were looked down on/inferior because of it. Things mostly run on schedule, though sometimes there’s a lot of chaos/people aren’t where they are supposed to be. A sense of general disorganization/chaos really pervades. Because of the way patients are treated, I did not feel like the atmosphere was nice, and I felt anxious a lot of the time. The other patients, however, were incredible, and we were able to have some fun and support each other in spite of a really condescending and belittling atmosphere. Ultimately, I would not recommend Carolina House for many reasons.
I am looking for Christian treatment, but Canopy Cove closed. I know Carolina House isn’t CHristian. But I heard you can ask for a Christian therapist and they’ll try… has anyone had any experience with having Christian staff here or fellow Christian clients? And can you go to church? Thanks!
Just in case you haven’t seen it, there is a tag here on EDTR for places that offer Christian counseling!
https://edtreatmentreview.com/category/known-for/christian/
Another option is The Charis House / Bring Your Brokenness, it’s a newer program started by a woman who went through Canopy Cove’s program a few years ago and is now in recovery.
https://www.bringyourbrokenness.com/residential
Thank you so much! I reached out to them and they seem amazing!
Could we start a thread on Bring your Brokenness? I’m considering going and would really appreciate some full reviews ?
Did you end up going to BYB? If so, can I ask you some questions or would you be willing to do a review?
thank you
Not a HLOC but in the meantime or once you get back Rock Recovery is a Christian affiliated outpatient practice with group therapy and support groups. I’ve had a pretty good experience with them so far.
hi i don’t know if this is helpful anymore due to the timing and also rachel’s list (thanks so much btw!!! you help us so much rachel!!), but selah house, from their website, seems very Christian.
i’ve heard very good things about them recently and someone told me it is more “spirtual” nowadays but one look at their official website and others that come up on google seems to heavily dismantle this idea. so much so that i strongly considered going and am not Christian so will thus not attend their program.
i could be wrong but you can always call admissions too just to confirm their program and ask questions (i never did because again, the websites, and even spirtuality isn’t a strong point for me) but they truly seem pretty religious. hope this helps and you get the care and support you need and deserve!!! 🙂
Hi! Could someone please explain how the meal plan works? I heard that it is exchanges and that you make your own meals and snacks except for one plated meal per day and occasional plated snacks that the staff do. I heard that you don’t actually use measuring tools… you eyeball it and staff give feedback. Is all that right? What meal is usually plated for you and how often are meals and snacks plated for you? What kinds of meals and snacks are the staff-plated meals and snacks? Do you get to choose your own foods for all the other meals and snacks (and I heard there is something about breakfast that is pre-decided?) What kinds of foods are available for meals and snacks? What kinds of cereals and oatmeals… I like plain and putting my own toppings in it. I’ve been at centers that do desserts daily and other places that never require dessert… what does this place do for desserts and how often? What is the supplementation policy? What do they do for restoration… more exchanges, or is everyone on a maintaining amount of exchanges and then boost and benecalorie added for weight restoration? Are all the exchanges at the plated meal the same? Do you get to choose how to devide up your exchanges throughout the day each day, or is it set for each meal and snack? Could you give a list of foods available for meals and snacks that clients plate? Do they focus on a balance of all foods, or do they hit it hard with fear foods and exposures, or do they stick mainly to what might be considered “healthy” foods? What are fluid requirements at meals and snacks and what about between? Do they do restaurants and how does that work? I have GI issues so the meal plan is important and also knowing how it will work reduces some anxiety when you’ve been many places that all do it differently lol. Thanks!
I haven’t been to Carolina House, but at other residentials I’ve been to plain flavor of anything (oatmeal, yogurt, soy milk) meal isn’t a choice. You can pick a flavor and sometimes nuts or peanut butter can be added to the oatmeal or granola added to yogurt. For some places or meals/snacks, that wasn’t allowed and it had to be eaten with soy milk (granola) or on toast as a spread (pb) or be itself (nuts). I understand your preference and concern, as I’ve needed that accommodation during treatment, not gotten it and ended up with an infection that required surgery.
Yes, all of this is right. Breakfast is usually themed (cereal, baked good, bagel, burrito), but aside from getting whatever’s in the ‘theme,’ you get all of your other exchanges based on what you like. There is a huge variety of foods available, and a lot of freedom about what you choose so long as it is within your exchanges. There is dessert for snack a couple of nights a week. Supplements are given when you don’t complete (I think it’s 50% meals = 1, >50 = 2), and they don’t count against you in any way. We don’t talk much about other people’s meal plans, so I’m not exactly sure what restoration looks like, but I didn’t see people regularly with supplements. The exchanges at plated meals are mostly the same, but some people are told that they need to add something in addition to the plated meal. You don’t get to choose how your exchanges are divided during the day (at least in the beginning), but they will let you move them (only once a day, before it’s plated, etc.). They focused on a balance of foods, and really, as long as you hit your exchanges, you are good. Your dietician may speak with you about trying more challenge foods. Fluid requirements are (I think) 16 oz of water/meal, 8 oz at snacks, and you can have water any time. They aren’t currently going out to restaurants, but order in from places (Cava, Red Robin, Moe’s), and you are given a form to order from. They’re really pretty understanding about food insensitivities and issues, and the food was good, which made eating much easier (obviously!), which was super helpful.
Thanks! So as far as exchanges, do the themed part of breakfast count towards your exchanges? Are you required to finish all your water (***). Is the dessert for snack twice a week required and does it count as your exchanges? Could you give examples of what is available to choose from at meals that are not plated for you? And examples of snack choices? And examples of flavors… Like plain oatmeal or flavors, cereal types, etc.? What are some plated meals? Do you follow exchanges on restaurant outings? What are options for supplements… Orgain, Boost, etc? Can you supplement at snacks if needed? What did you mean by you can move some exchanges? Are everyone’s exchanges fairly similar or way different for those on restoration? How long are meals and snacks? Does everyone stay seated the whole time or leave when done? Thanks so much! Maybe a list of inventory for self-plated meals and snacks would be so helpful and some examples of plated meals and snacks too. Thanks!
The themed part of breakfast always counts toward your exchanges, though sometimes it’s a little more of one thing than you actually need (but it’s not too bad!). You’re supposed to finish all of your water, though they aren’t super strict about this. Dessert snack is required and does count toward your exchanges (if you don’t finish it, you’ll just be offered a supplement–nothing bad happens!). If meals are not plated, there are leftovers you can choose from. There’s always grilled chicken available, usually pasta, rice, many vegetables, etc. I ate a lot of chicken during my time there. Snacks options are numerous, but I’d frequently have fruit and peanut butter. There’s also ice cream, chips ahoy, nuts, teeny candy bars, vanilla wafers, graham crackers, and chips. Everything is labeled with the exchanges on it. I think the supplements were Boost, but I’m not sure. You can supplement at snacks. Moving exchanges means that if you plan to have a dairy at breakfast that is not required for your meal, you can cross out a dairy later in the day. Most people’s exchanges are somewhat similar, but it absolutely depends on the person and their needs. Everyone has to be seated for thirty minutes at meals, and I think twenty minutes at snack, but then the whole table is usually dismissed at the same time. People will sometimes stay seated to finish a supplement.
Some plated meals we had when I was there included: vegetarian huevos rancheros, chicken twice baked potato, chicken tikka masala, and chicken kiev. Some desserts we had were cupcakes (we had a birthday in the house), wedding cookies, peanut butter pie, and coconut macaroons.
Let me know if you have any more questions. I wasn’t there long, but will try to give any information I have!
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Any recent inpatient stays? Would love an in-depth review?!
It’s not called inpatient here. They only have residential.
I realize that, I didn’t mean to put inpatient.
I would recommend Carolina House for residential but not for PHP/IOP.
Thank you! Have you been recently if so could you leave a in depth review?
what would you recommend for a PHP/ IOP?
Yes I have! What sorts of questions do you have?
I would recommend Veritas or Renfrew for PHP/IOP. I just wasn’t impressed and they had me leave before I was ready in order to meet their typical timeline of treatment. Residential did not do that.
Just try to answer what you can, but this is the basic questions this website provides!!
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Let me know if there are any I didn’t answer!
I was at Carolina house in 2018 and had a decent experience. Outings, groups, and meals were all great. I had a difficult time connecting with my therapist and that was the worst part but here are a few other complaints: short staffed, trouble with the dishwasher and oven being out of service, and inadequate staff in general. Also inconsistent and too lenient rules.
I returned to CH 2021 only to find things to be terrible. Pros: some of the staff are amazing, the dietician was great, the chef excellent, and food decent. Cons: admission, financial dept, and medical are a total mess. They are so short staffed that it is impossible to provide patients the attention and structure needed and requested. This leaves many patients unsupervised most of the time, they don’t receive proper meal support, and rules simply aren’t enforced. Admission was the most unorganized process imaginable. They got my admit day and time wrong, didn’t go over any rules or protocols just asked me to sign without explaining anything. After a week I had to discharge to go to the hospital, per the drs recommendation, and when I was ready to return to ch, my case worker at the hospital couldn’t get in touch with admissions for 3 days. After making my travel arrangements, ch called me last minute and said they won’t accept me due to my BMI, even though they told me and my case worker that I was cleared and ready to be admitted 3 days before. I have no faith whatsoever in their ability to communicate effectively with other providers or potential new clients. It is heartbreaking to see such a beautiful facility that has so much potential fall to pieces and become such an unstructured, understaffed mess. I’m so disappointed with ch for the way they handled not only my situation but also how they are running the program in general. They are doing all of their clients a huge disservice by not providing adequate medical care, meal support, and supervision. I could go on for hours but I’ll leave it at this. Carolina house is not the same picturesque, supportive residential facility it once was. I’m disgusted with the way things are being run there and I will never recommend or consider returning to ch for treatment.
I was there last month, and have to agree that CH is absolutely terrible. If anyone reading this is considering this place….just don’t. Avoid at all costs. It’s an absolute mess, and it is not possible to get anything even approaching decent care there.
My first stay in 2018 was great, however, I returned in Oct 2020 and things have really gone downhill. Most of the staff had changed and they were seriously understaffed. I LOVED my therapist and dietitian in 2018 but they were gone when I came back. I will also echo the previous review that they really don’t care if you restrict/refuse. There aren’t any consequences. I’m really sad that things have changed so much because my stay in 2018 was amazing and I was in solid recovery for the longest amount of time after I left.
This review is for the Homestead location in October/November of 2020.
Individual/Group Therapy
My therapist was not the best at connecting with her patients. She was trained in addiction therapy and seems to be confused with eating disorders at times. She wasn’t bad but she also did not give me any real advice. As far as the groups go they were very disorganized. We would often talk about topics that were unrelated to the group titles. Group leaders would often show up late or start late. We also once had an art group where we got leaves and put them in a bowl of water? It just felt like daycare sometimes.
The Food
Some meals were plated and some you were given exchanges for. The food in my opinion tasted fine. My issue is that patients are allowed to restrict without any consequences. I found it difficult to be motivated to eat when no one else was. The dietician was average. He based my meal plan on only my height and age which seemed a little lazy. He also wouldn’t tell me if I needed to be weight restored.
Random things that confused me
– we never followed any type of timed schedule
– there was no covid test required to stay in their residential program
– I was never given a list of rules prior to going or once I got there
– they would keep some girls in treatment for months without giving them answers as to what they need to work on
– There were no weekend or restaurant outings so during that time we would just sit there
– I didn’t have a blanket the first night I was there
This review is for the Homestead location in November of 2020.
So I will preface by saying I only went to the residential program here for a week after leaving Veritas in Durham. I chose to do this as I was asked to stay in Res for another two to three weeks and I was struggling with staying in a hospital/clinical setting for that much longer so figured a house setting like CH would be great. Spoiler for this review, DO NOT go here.
This facility is a large house on a rural property in Durham. The pictures are outdated on the website, be aware. Overall it was not too clinical and has actually very good food and decent groups but that is all the favorable stuff I have for this review.
The Treatment Team
My therapist was actually okay and seemed to care about here job. But she was very overworked. I never saw a psych provider while here, I reached a point of begging to see someone as my antidepressant stopped working and I was on the verge of crisis. I put in an urgent request every morning and night with the nurse. Nothing was ever done. There is pretty much one dietician for a house of 13-16 girls, with one on call. I have nothing good to say about them, they seemed out of touch and rarely offered sound advice during group if anything some of it verged on disordered.
The Food
Now I came from a very structured exchange system from a previous treatment center before coming here so when I say this system of exchanges is harmful…I mean it. It is really a pity as the chefs here are great and the food quality is amazing. But. They have a long list of food rules that damaged my recovery such as banning certain foods at certain meals and a no repeat rule for the entire day. This was bad as I had been taught to honor my bodies hunger and craving cues at a previous center and coming here was denied eating foods because “we say so”.
So I will go over this more in the staff section but they only ever had one mental health tech on per shift…for at one point 16 girls. They do not provide ANY meal support. If you do not eat, if you chose to act on behaviors at or after meal time, if you refuse supplement, they do not care. They will not ask you anything, they more often than not did not even encourage you to sit with supplement. Most just poured it down the sink the moment after it was poured for them. I left the table on several occasions breaking down and they did not care or check on me.
The Staff
As I stated above staffing was a problem. About half the staff did not care at all, the others tried but when your so understaffed there just isn’t much to do. Often there was only a nurse and a MHT on site at any given time and at the other residential location they often had no staff. If this doesn’t sound legal or ethical. It is neither. These issues were brought up to corporate by an entire group of patients, they reached the executive level and were told, I wish I was making thus up, that the executives did not have time to talk about these issues.
I was told by several staff that they were under payed and the company refused to offer competitive rates of pay for more employees while claiming there just wasn’t hires in the area that met their “standards”. To be frank these issues will get this place a loss of accreditation, I just hope sooner than later.
Summary
If you want specifics about this place I will reply, such as schedule and groups, but I am writing this review because I can’t stand to think that people struggling with their ED will go here. They care about one thing, and that is money. A residential level of eating disorder treatment without meal or staff support is effectively paying a lot of money for housing and groups that are offered at the outpatient level. This place is on the downhill. The environment was toxic, it was practically a sorority of girls competing and bragging about how bad they were doing while the singular staff member struggled to get anything done. If you’re in the NC area please just go to Veritas, your recovery belongs to you, not a greedy center who do not care about your recovery.
I was in residential at Carolina House in 2018 and I noticed some comments about whether or not they accept vegetarians. There were multiple vegetarians there when I was and as someone previously mentioned, if there’s not a vegetarian option offered at the meal you can supplement or do a behavior analysis chain. When there were chef plated meals, there was less of a chance it was vegetarian but on the meals where we plated it ourselves, there were quite a few times a vegetarian option was offered.
That being said, I would not recommend the facility at all. I went to Renfrew and Remuda back in 1999 and 2000 so I was familiar with how residential works. Carolina House has declined over the years and unfortunately I was there in the middle of another decline. Two therapists left while I was there. The clinical director who had only been on board a few months after my admission ended up leaving soon after as well. It was complete chaos under her leadership. There was so much disorganization. There were safety issues on multiple occasions. Groups were never properly planned for and many of the groups were a complete joke…naming your spirit animal, playing a game in the back yard, discussing a song that motivates you, etc. The therapeutic assistants had zero knowledge of eating disorders or how to support you and yet they were your main source of support throughout the day and night. The whole time I was there, they used an outside agency to staff CNAs because they didn’t have enough staff. Of course, they had zero knowledge of even the rules. The house itself needs major repairs. The ac unit never worked. Large aluminum ducts were placed in the windows downstairs. Things were broken in the bathroom. The dishwasher would break. The bedrooms were not inviting. For a place that was well over $1000 a day, I often wondered where my money was going. I spent 5 sessions with my therapist just doing the initial intake. You got 1 hour session with your therapist each week and then a “check in” which was a waste of time and less than 30 minutes. When I was there, they didn’t offer any type of body image work and when I questioned the dietitian she said it was too triggering to do with patients..yet that’s a big part of recovery. I was shocked at how poor the food was. The therapeutic assistants at times couldn’t even eat the entree because it tasted so bad. Unless it was a chef plated meal, you were eating leftovers that you had to take turns heating up in the microwave. The options offered often times didn’t go together. There was no support offered at tables during meal time. There was just distraction with stupid games. Carolina House gets flaunted a lot through one of their alum that went to the program during it’s initial opening. I don’t doubt it was probably a good program them but it’s definitely not now. I discharged to their Partial Program and left after a week because it was just as bad as their residential facility. My outpatient providers will now never recommend this program to their patients or other providers.
Thank you so much for this update! My dietician loves this place and has been pushing me to go and there has been hardly any updates on this website. It looks really great on the website and the pictures, but I’m glad to hear the reality.
Only one therapy session a week in a residential setting is ridiculous!
Are the grounds nice? Can you be outside and enjoy it like it looks like on their videos?
Hey Anne. I’m just now seeing your reply so I apologize. The dietitian I was seeing at the time raved about the place as well, but had no idea how much it had changed since she had recommended another patient. Once I shared my experience, she said she’d never send another patient there. The grounds are fine but you can’t really go anywhere. They have a front porch you can sit on during certain hours but if it’s too hot or too cold out they won’t let you and they are strict about that. They also have a back deck area that we could use in the evenings during phone time. They love the “treehouse” area but we never got to go there except for restorative yoga once a week if approved. If you ever get to the approved level, you can go on a short walk but they usually didn’t have enough staff to monitor it so it was pointless. I really hope you’ve found the help and support you deserve and that you are doing well!
I completely agree with the negativities you encountered at CH. I was there towards the end of summer 2019 and signed myself out after two weeks. There are two houses and I was in the all-inclusive house, which is smaller, but horrible. We went to the homestead a couple of times a week to see the women there and was so disorganized. The smaller house was a bit more organized but yeah the food was awful and tons of left overs. We would have 1 TA/CNA on per shift and one nurse. That was it. We had one dietitian and she was PT, so we only saw her in the house a couple of times per week. My therapist was new and yes, it took four sessions to finish my psychosocial, which should take one session at the most! There were inappropriate relationships and “activities” happening in the co-ed house during morning showers. And make out sessions in the living room b/c no staff or it was an agency CNA who specifically stated that the TA duties were not in her job description and instead forgot about night snack when we asked and never got it and she was on her phone the entire 8 hours.
There was also incidents with people smuggling in weed and vapes and this was between adults and minors. The most disturbing too me was the patient allowed to walk around in all short sleeves with white supremacy & anti-semitic tattoos all over the persons arms.
I agree that the place is trying to survive on their positive rep from a famous ED community advocate and alumni of the program. When it first opened it was just the one house, Homestead and probably a third of the patient population and set up very differently.
Its unfortunate b/c it was a great program. When I left I didn’t agree to their php either. I just needed to get away from there, just so much happening I left out of fear.
Has anyone been there recently that could leave a updated review please?? I’ve been looking between places for so long because I’m so scared and it’d help so much. There are always so many mixed reviews everywhere else and its so confusing!!
Does anyone have a more recent review of Carolina House? The review above is super helpful; I am just curious how much may have changed since that review was written for 2007/2008. I am considering this treatment center, so any reviews or input would be much appreciated! Thank you 🙂
Hey! Thanks for the updated review!
Are you saying the house doesn’t look like it does on the pictures? I have to say it looks so nice and peacful.
Interesting you likes Veritas though, I think that place is awful, so maybe this might be better for someone who hates that kind of environment, but doesn’t sound like it!
My dietician loves this place, but I don’t know how recent it was that she’s had someone go. Maybe it was better before. I know looking at it sounded great, but marketing…
Does CH allow laptops or just phones? Is there a minimum length of stay?
Does anyone know if you can have a cell phone or laptop here? I can’t tell since there are no recent reviews.
Does Carolina House allow you to have phone/laptop?
You can have a phone in residential at CH. It’s kept in the nurses station during the days (they’re all locked up in a box) but you get phone time every evening and can have your phone during visitation hours on sunday. I’ve heard from other people who went to other places that they had to use a “burner phone” and were unable to have a smartphone or camera phone, but CH let you. I liked this cause it meant you could facetime your friends/family.
I, too, would like to know if CH accommodates vegetarians. I’d also like to know if they use an exchange system there, and if not, what their meal plan looks like.
I called them this morning and after being transferred three times, I was told that they do not accommodate vegetarians, but that you have the option to supplement, and that they do use an exchange system.
Called to speak with someone in admissions. The woman was very confused and uncertain as to if they can handle duel diagnosis concerns (depression and mild substance abuse). I kept getting a lot of “I don’t know. We are only off-site admissions.” Left me very frustrated and disappointed with how this was handled. I called to receive information regarding the program, but unable to do so despite my efforts. I will call elsewhere.
I am looking into going to Carolina House within the next month. Does anyone have Blue Cross Blue Shield? If so, how long did they cover your stay?
Thank you for publishing my comment, but no one from CH has responded.
If someone is vegetarian or vegan, they don’t eat meat or animal byproduct, ever, its not a temporary thing you turn on an off. That’s just torture and uncalled for! That’s far , in fact polar opposite, of honoring this very spiritual matter.
There is no justifiable reason to pick a battle on whether someone gets essential Macronutrients and Micronutrients from animals vs plants. Prohibiting plant-based choices is not an evidence-based stance but an outdated assumption based in misconception that all vegetarians and vegans with an eating disorder are scheming to restrict. You go to treatment and you intake protein – carbs – fat. There is no getting around that. It’s not a battle worth picking and leaves us with few choices when it comes to accessing treatment. When is consistent nourishment going to receive priority?
I get it is easier for programs to exclude us, but it’s not ethical nor is it grounded in science.
Additionally, there is a new evidence-based program for adults w/ hx of anorexia and they suggest that some people have reactions to certain protein components that makes the noise in the brain louder (ED voice). It’s a biological reaction that can impair neurotransmitters. This program is in part funded by NEDA (aka legit).
Just Bc it’s easier and a bit outside of typical Amerocan culture doesn’t make it wrong nor should it be a determining factor of one’s admission.
I will alert CH as to your comment and see about a response. There may have been a delay with the holidays, they are usually quite good with responding quickly.
Is it true that Carolina House still doesn’t honor true vegetarianism? The energy density of vegetarian options is generally higher calorically and the options have higher macronutrient
content: more Carbs and/or more Fat. – tofu, nuts, seeds, beans, etc.
I’ve been a member of the Christian Vegetarian Association for over 5 years. I don’t feel consumers should have to pull the religion card for the dietary program to acknowledge human nutrition requirements are easily met on plant-base diets even when weight restoration is required. You simply have to be willing to think outside the box, a skill most programs preach but fail to actually practice.
However, I’ll pull the religion card at this point if that’s the game one has to play.
Honoring one’s beliefs yes, but consider a small amount of time and an opportunity at becoming healthy and getting recovery no matter what it costs. You can always go back to being vegan or vegetarian after.
During certain meals, you had the option to plate your exchanges from the kitchen’s offerings at the time and they would have eggs and tofu a lot. For some of the plated meals (mostly dinners were plated) they varied. I remember eating vegetarian chili when I was there, as well as several meals with tofu. So sometimes you have the option to select vegetarian options, sometimes you don’t. I think the main thing was that they wanted to focus on trying new foods and variety. As a picky eater, this part was rough.
It’s a strong possibility I’ll be entering into the partial hospitalization program (I think that’s the one where you go 7 days a week but don’t live there) and wonder if anyone has any feedback. The greatest challenge for me is that I have 2 small kids and no family nearby so it would require a grandparent flying out here or hiring a nanny, which I’m not entirely comfortable with. Does anyone know if there were other people in this situation? I worry about going to be the only one in my age group (mid-30s). Thanks!
I’m looking into Carolina house and was wondering if someone could do a recent indepth review. Thanks!
You can also post some questions in the professional forum, and they will personally answer them.
I too am thinking of sending my 21 yr old daughter there. Any info would be appreciated
Thank you for your interest in Carolina House. You are welcome to call for more information or start a free assessment anytime at (877) 549-0520. Our website is http://www.CarolinaEatingDisorders.com
look at Carolina’s house professional page and they will give you the most update information.. they are great at getting back to you. blessings,
Faith
Admin
Looking at their professional page, they haven’t responded to a single comment that’s on the page (going back to December 2015)… very frustrating.
I will contact them and get you connected.
Should be noted that all medical care (including optional weekly doctors visits) are billed separately from your actual stay, regardless of you level of care. Medical care is not included.
Their physician is possibly the worst doctor I’ve ever encountered. There were so many instances of gross negligence, I’m surprised she’s still allowed to practice medicine.
There is always a staff member within earshot of you, which is super annoying when you’re trying to just complain about not disordered things, like a normal person. They redirect any complaining about staff members/program. I felt like most of the time I was holding in my emotions and being “helicopter parented”.
It is a smaller program, but its also a smaller facility. I felt so often that I couldn’t get space to myself or a moment to vent to a friend privately, which wasn’t a problem for me in larger programs like ERC or Renfrew.
At one point I started having medical complications and required a higher level of care (I was on PHP at the house) and was in the process of switching programs. I stopped going to program because of the medical issues then received a phone call telling me if I didn’t start going to program, I would be discharged. The following day I went to program, was served breakfast, and immediately after was told by the business office (not anyone on my team) that I had been discharged four days prior and needed to leave campus immediately or I would be escorted by the police (I wasn’t causing problems, just speechless). They asked me to reapply to their program and handed me a business card of who to get in touch with. All discharging me did was mess up my insurance in getting to another program.
do you get privacy during morning hygiene time? like does staff watch you shower?
Yup! You get full privacy for showers. For bathroom time, you get privacy as soon as you get off level one. That takes about 1-2 weeks on average, but it truly depends on your disorder. However, they just stand outside the bathroom with the door open; they don’t actually stand inside with you.
What happens if you do not finish a meal? Are you sent to a quiet room with a tray, like at Hopkins, or punished in some way? Or if you do not compete a supplement? A therapist told me there were no repercussions at CH but I find that hard to swallow, no pun intended 😉 Thanks.
You can either choose to drink a supplement or write a behavior chain. Behavior chains are to help you understand why you chose to use any behavior. Obviously restricting is one, but they are used for all sorts of behaviors.
I’ve been to other places like Sheppard Pratt where you had to sit at a table all day, but that’s not how CH works. They aren’t there to punish you, but if you aren’t at a place in your recovery where you are willing and where you are going to actually try, then they will recommend a more intense level of care (IP). CH is amazing, but you have to want recovery for it to work for you.
Any recent reviews of CH?
How is the CH with trauma?
Hello
I have been to Renfrew twice and Timberline Knolls twice (also for my alcoholism) in the past for my eating disorder. I was doing well for a while…over a year…then relapsed horribly. I just did an intake with CH and am nervous but excited. It looks amazing here. I hope it helps me finally overcome this.
Just a few quesitons for those who have been there…
Are restaurant outings mandatory? If so, where do you go? What kinds of food/places?
Are cell phones and mp3 players allowed? Its not a problem if they arent I just want to be prepared.
Are you allowed to shave? At some places you I went to you had to sign your razors out and back in for a max time of 30 mins.
Do they have 12 step meetings for AA/EDA?
How does exercise work here? I was a very dedicated swimmer in the past and want to get back to working out…the HEALTHY WAY…even walking would be nice 🙂
Thanks so much!
Yes, restaurant outings are mandatory. I don’t think anyone would go otherwise 😛 We have a rotation of mexican, a diner, chinese, american, fast food etc. I think there are 6-8 restaurants on the rotation. We went to places like California Pizza Kitchen, Chickfila (this was brought in house), etc.
Cell phones are allowed every night for 2 hours. mp3 players are allowed during all break times.
Yes, shaving is allowed, thank god. I HATE when that is a rule at treatment centers. That was one of the first questions I asked too.
They will take you to outside 12-step meetings for AA/NA if your therapist approves it.
You have body movement on certain days where you can go on walks, have a dance party, hula hoop, etc., but this is only if you are weight restored and if your therapist approves it. We also have yoga and something called “Shake your Soul” where a teacher comes in and you do a dance/exercise class. Again, all of these must be approved by your therapist.
I am also interested in a review of the IOP /PHP programs in Raleigh . Can anyone add smo info. On this?
Two questions: 1. Do they tube for weight restoration? I’m AN B/P type and I HATE having to eat over a maintenance meal plan to gain weight because I think it sets me up for binging. 2. Do they have equine therapy? I thought I saw that they did, but then I did not see it on their website.
No and No. They will make you eat A LOT of food, the only use boost and cliff bars to supplement and there is no equine therapy. I would not recommend them.
You get to go visit horses at a farm up the street sometimes, but it is sort of a random occurence. You do not get to ride the horses.
When were you there: July 2011 – April 2012, and October 2012 – Now
How many patients on average?
It really varies but the max has been raised to 15.
Does it treat both males and females? If so, is treatment separate or combined?
Women/older adolescent girls only.
How often do you see a medical doctor, psychiatrist, psychologist (therapist), nutritionist, etc?
You see your therapist 2 times a week – sometimes one of those sessions is a family session depending on your treatment plan and how involved your family is. There’s also a weekly check in with your therapist and honestly most of the therapists try to make themselves pretty available – I’ve had a really wonderful experience with how available the staff are.
What is the staff ratio to patients?
There’s always 2 RPA’s working (RPAs are counselors) and during the weekdays all of the therapists, the dietician, and the cooking staff are there as well (and everyone is so supportive).
What sort of therapies are used? (DBT, CBT, EMDR) etc?
The program is primarily DBT oriented; there’s a DBT group 3 times a week and a heavy emphasis placed on “Using Your Skills” 😛
Describe the average day:
On M-W-F you have to be downstairs to get weights and vitals and be ready/downstairs for breakfast by 7:30. You can wake up anytime after 6:00 and get your hygiene stuff.
Then we have breakfast. On Mon-Wed-Fridays there’s DBT group at 9:30, a snack at 10:30 (although not everyone has morning snack, that one’s optional; obviously you still have to meet your meal plan requirements but you can choose to space it out without a morning snack or with one).
At 11:00 on M-W-F there’s an “Interpersonal Process Group” which is supervised by two therapists but mostly patient directed. It can feel a little directionless but they encourage us to use it as we need it, and learn from each other.
At 12:00 it’s time for lunch, followed by a nap from 1:30 to 2:30 (you don’t HAVE to sleep but you do have to rest; you can journal or whatever you like during that time). Snack used to be at 2:30 but they’ve moved it to 3:30 because people complained about still being too full. So 3:30 snack, and then some group – varying from Spirituality, E&E every other week (go to Starbucks, get a decaf drink and journal on a topic), Body Image, Relapse Prevention, Empowerment, yada yada and so on. After the group(s) there’s sometimes a little down time before dinner but often it’s 6:00 and dinnertime. After dinner there’s phone time and relaxing/watching a movie/hanging out until snack at 8:45, then at 9:30 you go upstairs to brush your teeth and do other hygiene stuff until lights out at 10:30. Now, the lights out at 10:30 would drive me insane if I wasn’t allowed to have a booklight, but you can, and I tend to stay up and read for awhile longer. “Sleep hygiene” is encouraged. Tuesdays and Thursdays are a little different; Tuesdays there’s team meeting and the clients have Nutrition Group with Jenn, the dietician (and I cannot say enough amazing things about Jenn) and a LOT of down time. Thursdays there’s art therapy all morning (which almost everyone loves, and again the art therapist Eva is so wonderful; you can elect to meet with her individually in the afternoon if she has an open slot), a lunch outing, then body image.
What were meals like?
You’re thrown in right away to preparing your own meals. They go by the exchange system, but you don’t measure in measuring cups or spoons; instead they teach you to eyeball with their plates/bowls/spoons so that it’s a more normative experience with food. Breakfasts have a “theme” for most mornings, meaning you have to have either cold cereal on cold cereal day, or pancakes/waffles on Saturdays, or hot cereal on hot cereal day, etc. Of course you can have whatever you want WITH the thing you have to have, but yeah. Dinners are usually set meals and vegetarianism is not allowed while you are in the program. There are several chefs, all of whom are pretty awesome; all care very much and are sensitive during Culinary Group, and will work with you to help you feel comfortable. You can participate and learn how to make all sorts of cool stuff – like peanut sauce, hummus, how to use the grill, soups, etc – or do easier things like chop vegetables. They’re all so excited about food and cooking that they’re more than happy to work with you if you bring them a recipe; Dani is the head chef and will figure out the exchanges for you and come up with a recipe that fits them, and then you can make it.
Of course there’s some tension, because it’s eating disorder treatment, but overall the staff are very supportive and we eat “family style” at two tables, each table has an RPA.
What sorts of food were available or served?
Pretty much anything. For snacks there’s fruits of all kinds, yogurt, cottage cheese, actual cheese, crackers, peanut butter, neutella, almond butter, nuts of different sorts, trail mix, muffins, cookies, pretzels, juice, whatever. And for meals there’s all sorts of stuff too; Quinoa, rice, soups, a salad bar, tortillas, cheese, chicken, tofu, pesto, peanut sauce, lots of vegetables (I thought I hated brussel sprouts until I tried them roasted)…etc etc.
Did they supplement? How did that system work?
Yep. One Ensure if you eat 50% or more of a meal, two if you eat less.
What is the policy of not complying with meals?
You supplement and do a “behavior chain” which is a DBT thing; basically you analyze why you did the behavior, what led up to it, and what you can do next time to be more effective. The RPA’s obviously will encourage you to eat your meal and they’re very compassionate and kind about it.
Are you able to be a vegetarian?
No.
What privelages are allowed?
There’s a level system (and as a previous poster mentioned the names are constantly changing). But passes happen eventually, going out on the porch when you’re not needing to be in staff sight, getting off of bathroom supervision…and you can ask for various things. One girl right now likes to write stories and her therapist gave her a standing computer pass during down time so she can get on to work on her story. Smoking is not allowed.
Does it work on a level system?
Yes.
How do you earn privelages?
Being honest, participating in groups, complying with your meal plan, etc.
What sort of groups do they have?
See the section on the daily schedule 🙂
What was your favorite group?
Hm…right now the therapist leading DBT is pretty excellent, her name is Eileen. I like E&E too of course, and Empowerment is definitely my favorite.
What did you like the most?
God, the staff have never given up on me. Obviously my stays have been pretty lengthy, and I’ve been dealing with this disorder for a very long time, but they’ve been so patient, encouraging, understanding, and never given up. They’re very good at working with insurance (I don’t feel comfortable going into details, but they were lifesavers for me with this). The RPA’s are all just really cool people once you get to know them and they’re not only available for support pretty much 24/7 but interact with you in a way that feels human, and laugh with you, and are all much more aware than you might think at first. I just don’t understand how they can be so endlessly compassionate.
What did you like the least?
Sometimes the groups feel like they could be more useful, but they’re very receptive to feedback in a way I’ve found to be unheard of in other programs. But yeah, sometimes I feel like it could be a little less coddling and more direct. So the compassion is a wonderful asset to the program, but a little more firmness wouldn’t hurt either.
Would you recommend this program?
Yes.
What level of activity or exercise was allowed?
So this is one of the things they’ve been really receptive to; the body movement program used to be all but non existent, but after some feedback that it felt really unhelpful and like they were ignoring the whole necessary part of learning to exercise in a healthy way they’ve incorporated some strength training. There are walks some days of the week, a group called “Shake Your Soul” (kind of like NIA dancing, run by an awesome therapist named Paula) and “Game Days”. I still think it could be a little more comprehensive but they’re working on it. Everyone has different levels of body movement approved based on what you need.
What did people do on weekends?
There’s an outing on Saturdays, pretty much like other places; build a bear, the museum, going to paint pottery, movies, whatever. Some people go on passes. On Sundays there’s a spiritual outing if you want to go – anything from Church to Temple to a Buddhist Zen Center…you do not have to go. It’s not a religious program and nothing is forced on you, but they will work very hard to accommodate your spiritual needs.
Do you get to know your weight?
Ha, ha. No. Never.
How fast is the weight gain process?
This SO varies by the person. For me it happened really really fast, but I completely screwed up my metabolism and they went really slow with my refeeding anyway. Again, it varies.
What was the average length of stay?
They ask you to commit to a minimum of 45 days but if your insurance covers you’ll likely be there for more like 3-4 months. Then again it definitely varies as to how you’re doing, your history, what you need, where your health is at, and so on.
What was the average age range?
Usually mid 20’s but I’ve met as young as 17 and as old as in their 60’s.
How do visits/phone calls work?
Sundays are visiting days, from 2-5. If your family/friends can only visit on certain days at certain times your therapist will usually approve that, but you need to ask. Phone time is in the evenings from after dinner until snack. You can apply for phone passes if you need to call someone urgently; they always approve things like if you need to make a call to resolve a bill or an old doctor’s office or whatever, and sometimes for emotional reasons, but it depends.
Are you able to go out on passes?
Yes. They’re big on passes, but it takes awhile. At first you go out on a “self care” pass which is very short and doesn’t include eating away, then move up to snack passes, then meal passes, etc.
What kind of aftercare do they provide? Do they help you set up an OP treatment team?
They do help you set up an outpatient team and if you’re local they have an aftercare group. You can do PHP at the house, as well, or go to their Raleigh location, or they’ll help you find a program in your area.
Overall, I really think the patience, love, and commitment of the staff is the most beautiful thing about this program, the heart of it all. They care so deeply and it shows.
Do they have equine therapy here?
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone can give me a more recent review on Carolina House. I’m just waiting on my labs, and then I have to a in person interview before my insurance accepts me. I’m getting really nervous and about leaving my family for the holidays.
Did you end up going to CH? I’m considering, and I want to find out how the program is doing recently?
I have been twice and just went recently last summer-fall. The program is amazing and I would recommend it to anyone that is truly willing to change. Having so much exposure to the food was so different compared to any other place I’ve been.
Can anyone do a recent review of CH’s new IOP/PHP programs (not located at the house)?
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I was at CH twice. I was there from May-early Sept in 2007 and for 45ish days in the spring of 2008. Overall, my experience at Carolina House was very very good. Prior to that in 2005/2006, I had been at Renfrew in Florida for about 2 months. Renfrew is definitely a solid program, but CH’s size and more individualized treatment better suited my needs. I chose to go back a second time when I was struggling, confident that it would be what I needed (it was!), and they really worked with me in terms of my treatment plan. At the time of my second CH stay, I was living in Durham and working in Raleigh, and I continued to see my OP therapist once a week while at Carolina House (in addition to seeing my CH therapist). For the last three weeks of my time at CH, I went back to work part time during the day. I say this simply to illustrate that they are a flexible program.
I’m just going to do a laundry list of stuff that’s good to know about CH….
1) Food: There are 3 meals at CH (duh) and 3 snacks. When I was there, pretty much everyone was on 3 meals, 3 snacks. A few people did not have a morning snack, but the meals, afternoon snack, and night snack are mandatory. On your first day, you’ll meet with the nutritionist, E. Based on your history, your weight, & your current eating patterns, E will come up with a meal plan for you. I pretty much have only struggled with restricting, and I was always surprised how reasonable the MP seemed for the first few days. She does not give you an obscene, unreasonable amount of food at first (though that point can come!). E typically will increase your MP after a few days and then adjust it about once a week, depending on where your weight is at, if it needs to be going up, staying the same, whatever. If you are on weight gain, the rate of gain is typical for a residential facility, about 1.5 to 2 pounds a week. Since the human body is not a machine, this can’t be predicted exactly; however, E is pretty cautious with the MPs.
The MP is based on exchanges. You’ll be given a total number of exchanges for each day: X starches, X protein, X dairy, X fruit, etc. It’s up to you to distribute the exchanges throughout the day as you wish. Every few days you’ll fill out meal cards for the upcoming couple of days, and you can write in how many starches (e.g.) you will eat at breakfast, how many at starches at snacks, how many at lunch, etc. If you have, say, 4 fruits for the day, you might have two at breakfast, one at lunch, and one with afternoon snack. Or maybe you’ll have one at breakfast, one at morning snack, one at lunch, and one at night snack. If it is, for example, easier for you to eat breakfast, you might put a few more of your total exchanges at that meal than at lunch. The distribution of exchanges is up to you; the day’s totals, however, must add up to E’s plan for you. Does this make sense? Often E will do your first few days with or for you. After that, the other residents can help you out at first as well.
The food itself is pretty flexible. Not only do you decide how much you’ll eat at meals, you also get to choose what specifically you’ll eat and prepare your meals. Dinner is the exception (I’ll get back to that). Carolina House has a normal kitchen with counter space, two sinks, a dishwasher (or two? they just recently redid that), and a large pantry. The pantry is not locked, although outside of meal and snack prep, you’re not supposed to go into the pantry (unless you ask/have a reason). The knives, grators, and scissors are in a locked cupboard, and a staff member will get whatever you need out for you. Okay, so meal prep works like this: before a meal, you get your meal card from the staff member who is working at that time. Let’s say it’s breakfast, and you have a certain number of starches, fruit, dairy, and fat planned for that meal. You can decide if you want to eat your starches all as cereal, or perhaps as some cereal & a piece of toast. You can choose if your fruit is fresh, dried, or juice. Your fat may be butter or cream cheese or perhaps nuts to add to something. Dairy can also be whatever you choose (milk–it’s 2% at CH–or yogurt or cheese). Basically, there is a lot of flexibility and choice. Once you have your meal assembled, you show the staff member, who compares your food and portion sizes with your meal plan. Once the staff has made sure that you have all your required food, you take your meal over to the table (we have assigned seats and rotate about once a week). Once everyone is ready, you start to eat.
Meal prep often feels chaotic, hectic, and overwhelming, especially at first, when you don’t know where things are, when you’re still learning how to eye-ball portion sizes, when you don’t really know what you want to eat or what there is to eat, when it feels like there are people everywhere. Everyone is overwhelmed by it at first, but after a few meals or days, you get the hang of it. Regarding portion sizes, there’s a chart/list that tells you how much raisin bran, for instance, is the equivalent of one starch. It’s 1/2 cup actually. At CH, there are no measuring cups or spoons used in meal prep. You eyeball everything, but Ellen, the staff, and the other residents will help you learn what 1/2 cup looks like in a bowl vs. in a glass, or what 2T of something might look like.
I mentioned dinner was different–everyone has the same dinner template (2 starches, 3 protein, 2 veg, 2 fat). Sometimes I would add some of my other exchanges to dinner (like a fruit or a dairy and maybe a starch) to make the daily distribution more even; however, most people just eat the standard dinner w/o any additional exchanges. the chef/culunary guru, prepares a common meal (residents help her with meal prep on an assigned basis, or prepare the meal themselves for the whole house, although shei helps you out). In addition to dinner being prepared by chef, there are a few other random stipulations at other meals. One day at breakfast, it might be cereal day, so one of your starch exchanges that morning HAS to be cereal; another day at breakfast (it used to be Sundays) was waffle or pancake day (they have frozen waffles), so you have to have one of those two for at least one of your starches.
Coffee. Important. : ) Everyone is allowed one cup of coffee (or caffeinated tea) a day, at breakfast. Renfrew did caffeine tapers. Carolina House does not. They give you ibuprofen. So, if you are consuming a lot of caffeine right now, you might want to start cutting back to make the transition to one cup a day easier.
When I was at CH, veganism was allowed. It no longer is, although vegetarianism is permitted.
The expectation is that you finish your meals and snacks. If you refuse, you have to have a supplement. If you eat less than 50% of your meal, you have two have 2 supplements, if you eat more than 50% but not all of it, you have to have 1 supplement. If you don’t complete a snack, you have to have 1 supplement. Supplements are usually Boost, although when I was there, I did a mixture of Boost and ClifBars. Supplements are also used to augment the MP. For some folks, trying to eat their entire MP in terms of regular food just is too much volume, so they will choose to incorporate supplements into the MP as well.
Once a week, there’s a restaurant outing during lunch. All the residents go, as well as several staff members. It can be stressful, but it’s a good challenge, a nice time to get out, and it can be fun.
Okay, I think that does it on the food. I don’t have so much to say about the other things!
2) Weight: Your weight is checked M-W-F mornings before breakfast in the nurse’s station. You just pop down there and get weighed in a t-shirt. It’s blind weights from day one for everyone. E will tell you if your weight it doing “what it is supposed to be doing”, but she won’t tell you numbers. She will, however, reassure you that you are not gaining too quickly, if that is a concern of yours (although keep in mind, that 2 lbs a week is appropriate/acceptable). If you are at a healthy weight, your weight will still be monitored–to make sure it stays at a healthy weight. I know that people who struggle with B/P or COE often lose a bit of weight (not b/c Ellen is aiming for weight loss but b/c the crazy water retention associated with those behaviors levels out).
3) Living. As you can see from the online pics, CH is a house with bedrooms. It’s 2 or 3 women per room. You have your own bed, nightstand, nightlight. You share the closet (plenty of space), and you share the bathroom with the adjoining bedroom, so 4-6 people share the bathroom. Each bathroom has two sinks, and the shower/toilet are separated from the sink area (there’s a door). You aren’t upstairs or in the bedroom that often, so it really doesn’t matter who your roommate is, per se. You really are only in there for sleeping. Both times I was at CH, I was in the green bedroom (just a coincidence, though). I’m quite partial to it. : ) Even though I never had to switch rooms in either of my stays, it is pretty normal that you’ll have to move rooms at some point, for a variety of reasons.
4) Bathrooms: This was probably the hardest thing for me about CH. Everyone is on supervised bathrooms at first. It does not matter if you have never purged or done anything eating disordered in the bathroom in your life, you will be on supervised bathrooms at first. It basically means: you must ask to use the bathroom and you’ll be supervised. You have semi-privacy. A staff member stands outside the bathroom door, which is cracked open, with her back to the door. You do your thing, and then before flushing you’ll say “okay” or tell the staff member that you are finished. She will then peek quickly into the toilet bowl (to make sure you haven’t purged or put food in the toilet or whatever), tell you okay, and then you can flush and wash your hands. for me, this was always just …awkward. I was fine peeing, but man, I think having someone hovering outside the door totally contributed to my constipation. There is a lot of poop and constipation talk. Everyone seems to deal with it. One of the nurses, Shirley (she’s fabulous!!!), is great to take you to the bathroom if you just need time and privacy and not a cluster of residents standing in line outside the door. The length of time on supervised bathrooms varies–CH says that the typical length of time is two weeks; however, it seems like every therapist has a different degree of strictness in that arena. Some people never get off supervised bathrooms (but in that case, it’s because they really do struggle with purging or something similar).
5) Groups: there are a plethora of groups at CH. Some meet a couple of times a week, others meet just once a week. Overall, the groups are pretty well run and useful. There’s a DBT skills group a few times a week, art therapy twice a week, yoga twice a week, a spirituality group, a nutrition and ED education group, a body image group, a culinary group, and some others that I’m no doubt forgetting. These groups are typically lead by staff therapists, i.e. by people who have at least masters degrees, and tend to be pretty interactive. Another group that meets three times a week is “interpersonal” (an interpersonal relations process group). I always liked this group and found it helpful, but some people absolutely loathe interpersonal. It’s basically a time to talk about what might be going on with you personally or what might be going with you in relation to others in the house; it’s a chance to name struggles and ask for support. It’s a chance to ask others what might be going on with them. Essentially, it’s an opportunity to be very real. It can be uncomfortable, awkward at times, but I found that when I spoke up, I always benefited. In addition to these groups, some of the other structured time includes body movement, a community meeting, and “household duties.” Body movement is typically going for a walk (i.e. walking up and down the drive for 30 minutes). You do have to be medically cleared to participate in body movement, which requires seeing the doctor (who comes to the house once or twice a week), and your vitals (esp. blood pressure) have to be stable. There are brief, daily community meanings in the evening (generally had little point), and once a week in the afternoon there’s an entire community meeting, which all the staff and residents attend. It’s a chance to raise concerns about the house schedule, for example, or to hear community wide announcements. Every now and then, tense things would come up, e.g., the executive director (Stacie) might look at us with her piercing blue eyes and say, “There seem to be a lot of secrets in the house right now” …and then wait for confessional to begin… but typically, community meetings were pretty business like. Household duties occurs on weekdays before dinner, and all the residents pitch in and do things like sweep, vacuum, empty the trash cans, clean the bathrooms, water the plants, etc.
6) Individual Therapy: You are assigned an individual therapist your first day, and you’ll meet with him/her either your arrival day or your first full day and do an intake (pscyhosocial history). Twice a week you have individual therapy, and typically one of those sessions will be a family session (done over the phone usually). In addition, it’s possible to check in with your therapist briefly (for 10 or 15 minutes about) every day. And you see them off and on all day, whether it’s because they are leading a group or just because the house is relatively small so you see lots of everyone. Prior to my first time at CH, I remember thinking that therapy twice a week was not going to be enough (I see my OP therapist 3 times a week!), but b/c you interact with your T on so many levels at CH, the amount of contact and individual attention does feel sufficient. In addition to your individual sessions, you have to meet with the doctor at least once and then on an as-needed basis thereafter (your insurance will get billed for each visit for the MD–although double check to make sure that’s still the policy–so I advise only seeing her if absolutely necessary). The psychiatrist comes to the house twice a week. Everyone meets with her weekly, and if you are in the midst of med changes or are on a lot of meds or just need to see the psych, you’ll meet with her both times she’s at the house. You’ll meet with E (dietician) as needed, usually 1-3 times a week. She’s around every day, so you can always check in with her as you need to.
7) Outings/Free time/Church: There’s a good balance between groups, therapy, and down time. Sometimes to me it felt like too much structure; at other times, I wanted way less structure. *shrug* There are some scheduled outings. I mentioned the restaurant outing on Thursdays. In addition, there is a trip to Starbucks (“Expressions and Espresso”), during which we could have coffee (decaf) or some other coffee drink from Starbucks (decaf…) while we journaled on an assigned topic. It used to be a weekly group, but I’ve heard that it’s now every other week. Every other Saturday we have a group called “Shake Your Soul” that’s held over at Duke. It’s a body movement dance group thing. I HATE any kind of dancing; I always feel really self-conscious, inept, and like everyone’s judging me. I actually felt comfortable in Shake Your Soul. P, the leader, is really cool. She is recovered from an ED, and prior to coming to NC, she worked with Anita Johnson (the author of “Eating in the Light of the Moon.”). Saturday afternoons there is a group outing. As a house, you decide what to do. We often went to the movies or to Barnes and Noble. Those two things were outings that, as a house, we could actually agree upon. Other Saturday afternoon outings included various museums, the gardens at Duke, & going to Paint-Your-Pot (although b/c of the expense, we weren’t allowed to do that one that often). But it seemed like the movies and B&N were the default outings.
There is a lot of free time on Sundays. Between breakfast and lunch and then again between lunch and dinner there is nothing scheduled. On Sunday morning there is the option of going to a church service in the community. Either each Tuesday or Wednesday during the evening community meeting, staff will ask if anyone would like to go to church on the upcoming Sunday. Generally, it is possible to work out two different services to attend–e.g., one service might start at 10:30 and a different one at 11:00, so two different groups from CH might attend those services. And invariably, some people chose to stay at the house. Actually, it seemed like most of the time, most stayed at the house on Sunday mornings, and usually only one group went to church and agreed on one denomination/service. Sunday afternoons are completely free–no option of house outings, just free time at the house (and a time for visitors to come).
Carolina House has a level system–they are constantly changing the level names, so I won’t even mention what they were called when I was there. Everyone starts out at the same basic level, which essentially means lots of supervision: supervised bathrooms, can’t go outside w/o staff, can’t go upstairs w/o staff (though that maybe has changed???). Over time, you move to less structured levels. That first initial level of less structure means that you can go out on a “therapeutic” pass with family (if they are local or in town) or sometimes with other residents. A “therapeutic” pass means you’ll be doing something recovery-oriented, e.g., eating a snack out or going out for a meal, or perhaps going clothes shopping. At an even less structured level, you can go on passes by yourself for whatever reason you want (run errands, just get away from the house, etc.). Your individual therapist determines with the team what your level is, and it is your individual therapist who approves your pass requests. In my experience, they were never too picky about the nature of the passes–”therapeutic” was defined very loosely.
Where do you live currently? Will you be driving or flying to CH? Will you have a car there? Having a car makes arranging passes infinitely easier, but people w/o cars still go on passes, of course. Sometimes they pair up with residents who do have a car (usually at least 2 or 3 folks have cars), or sometimes people will get a taxi together.
8) Phones/Computers: You can have your cell phone. Your phone is stored in a locked box in the nurse’s station. Every day–actually 6 of the 7 days when I was there–there is designated phone time during which you can have your phone & call whomever. During the week, it’s typically every evening for about an hour. On the weekends, phone time is longer. In addition, you can fill out a phone pass form thing. If you need to make phone calls during business hours (e.g. to school, work, pay bills, talk to your home therapist, etc.) or during times that are not designated “phone times,” that is almost always possible. You just fill out a request slip and your therapist signs it. Again, my experience was that they were very flexible about phone use. If you needed it outside of phone time for a legit reason, you could use your phone.
They did not allow laptops when I was there–there really wasn’t any reason to have them. (Although, again, if you NEED your laptop for some reason, talk to CH ahead of time and see about bringing it. I did have mine the second time I was there b/c I was working some of that time and did some work in the evenings at CH on my computer). There is a computer (maybe 2 now?) available for residents to use. You can’t spend forever and a day on the computer–it may be that you still have to fill out a request form (I *think* we did when I was there)–but things like paying bills, registering for classes, booking flights, looking up church services, all that kind of stuff is allowed. Checking email is too, and as long as there aren’t tons of people wanting to use the computer, you can take your time (& go on facebook or check out all your other favorite sites).
9) Staff: It’s a good group of staff. The staff therapists are all very competent. My individual therapist from CH no longer is there, unfortunately. I guess all this is pretty subjective. Regardless, though, she knows her stuff inside and out. As a nutritionist, she is absolutely competent. Shirley, the head nurse, is wonderful in my opinion. She gives the best hugs. : ) Clearly, I had a problem and needed help, and they were in the position to help me. In any case, I thought you might be interested in knowing that both of them have been to seminary. Neither are overtly (or covertly) Christian in their therapeutic approach, but certainly you could bring up faith concerns with either of them.
The day-to-day stuff at CH, e.g. meal supervision (both meal prep and eating), bathroom supervision, taking residents on outings, doing body movement with residents, etc., is done by RPAs. Most of them are on the “younger” side (in their 20s or 30s, I’d say), and some you will like better than others. I liked all of them; they were all nice and their hearts were definitely in the right place. There were certain RPAs, however, that I’d feel more comfortable approaching for support or to check in with. All of them are available to answer questions, help you in the kitchen, listen, and be supportive in whatever ways they can.
10) What to bring/not bring/mail/packages: I’m sure you’ll get a packing list that will have most of the basics. You don’t need to bring towels or linens (although a favorite fleece blanket is nice!). You do need a hat (baseball cap, e.g.) to wear during meal prep in the kitchen. Some other good things to have with you–pictures, stuffed animals, slippers, a few loose fitting comfortable pants (definitely if you are on weight gain), journal, pens, any arts and craft supplies that you might use (do you knit? crochet? bead? that kind of stuff, none of which I do!), puzzle books, books to read, stationary, stamps …hmmm, this is sounding like a summer camp packing list! Bring anything that could make your time more comfortable. Some girls bring tons and tons of clothes and pairs of shoes. It seems a bit excessive…. we don’t go out that much, and when we do, it’s as a herd to places like the bookstore… In any case, bring comfortable clothes! And some looser fitting stuff. And if you are re-feeding, you might get a lot of night sweats, so you might want several t-shirts available–sometimes I’d change my t-shirt twice in the middle of the night. There are washers and dryers (free) in the house as well as laundry detergent. You can do laundry whenever you need to.
On your first day, when you arrive, someone (staff member) will go through your luggage and “confiscate” anything that is not allowed. So things NOT to bring–perhaps this is obvious, but maybe not …b/c someone at Renfrew did bring a scale. So, don’t bring a scale! They’ll confiscate it! : ) Also no tape measurers, exercise equipment, calorie books, anything that could possibly be used in an eating-disordered fashion. No gum. Magazines that might be construed as “triggering” or could possibly be misused will be confiscated (anything like Cosmo, People, Runners’ World …they even took my Newsweek! Apparently b/c there were advertisements that were food or diet or drug related, or something…). I’m one of those people who tends to pack things in plastic bags, and all my plastic bags were taken too (b/c one could purge into the bag). I also had brought a page-a-day calendar. Also not allowed. Apparently I was supposed to be focusing on my time there, not counting the days! I just wanted to do my Sudoku a day… Overall, don’t bring anything that you know you could be using to harm your recovery, and don’t be surprised if a few harmless things you bring end up being taken from you (returned when you leave, though, of course!).
All medications are locked in the nurse’s station along with various medicated ointments, band-aids, etc. Sharps (nail clippers, razors, scissors) are kept in a locked drawer upstairs and can be checked out in the morning and evening. Oh, your wallet, car keys, and other valuable are also kept in a locked box in the nurse’s station.
You can receive snail mail, and I recommend that you tell everyone you know to send you mail. Mail is fabulous while in treatment. You can also receive packages, which you’ll have to open in front of a staff member. No food or gum, no magazines (like the ones I mentioned above. Perhaps National Geographic would be okay. Or Ranger Rick. Or Highlights.).
Yes, outings are covered by the CH =) You want to bring extra money along in case you personally want to buy something (Barnes and Noble is a VERY common outing, plus there’s Target once a week) but Putt-Putt, movies, things like that are paid for by the house.
on PHP there are apartments we can stay in. I stayed on partial in the apartments for AGES. They’re about 20-25 minutes away at a weight loss centre (I know, ironic, isn’t it?) called the Structure House that’s also owned by CRC. They’re nice! It depends on your insurance what you’ll pay. Generally it’s $50 a night…I have Cigna (who didn’t even cover me that well at the CH) and we ended up paying $30 a night for over a month that I was at the Structure House.
I’d also like to add that my experience at the CH was amazing. I couldn’t have asked for a better place. They honestly saved my life. The staff is so wonderful, the groups are BEYOND helpful, meals get tense at times but…well, that’s to be expected. Usually at b-fast we read horoscopes or the paper outloud so that takes away the tension there =) All of the staff there are great and easy to talk to.